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Happy Wonderer · 07-27-2003, 10:37 AM

ROTFLAMO! My thread has, indeed, been trumped. Thx!

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Interesting that you think "science" gave us agriculture. If your going to make the claim, then perhaps you would like to present your evidence. It was actually religion that gave us agriculture because it was the priests who came up with the first calanders that really made it possible.

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Roller · 07-28-2003, 05:29 AM

Listen to this one, from the Christian board (mostly Catholics and not English speaking). A thread appeared named "Marriage between couples of different faith?" Almost everyone considered that kind of marriage an abomination and that RCC would never approve of such marriages. Then one guy said how RCC has nothing against those kind of marriages, as long as children are raised in Catholic faith. Then he produced quotations from Vatican council that confirms that. Even after that, people still thought how such marriages are forbidden.

Then another "incident" happened. Those same people started posting those awful stories about stuff that they can't rationalize and then their imaginary friend helps them with rationalization. Anyways, they started posting songs and texts without
acknowledging the authors. Just copy/paste without authors name. Until one of the authors appeared on the board and asked why her name is not mentioned (they would just have to copy one more line where the authors name was, but no, no one would copy that). So the same guy appeared again and warned them that what they are doing constitutes plagiarism. They attacked they guy and he was forced to leave. Oh yeah, he was one of the moderators on that forum. I don't know what he was doing there since he was way too intelligent for that bunch.

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Late_Cretaceous · 07-28-2003, 09:19 AM

It seems the antics at Christian Forums just wont stop this week. In this thread Shane Roach started off by trying to say that science has neglected any study of human consciousness. Accordingly, science has neither tried - nor would be able in any case - to study the human consciousness. When I told him his post was full of shit and provided him a list of journals and organizations devoted to studying this he simply moved the goal posts. Apparently, science defines human consciousness differently then do lay people (but of course he can't demonstrate how or why).

I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when he said he found it irritating to be asked to cite references for his inflammatory statements.

Lobstrosity · 07-28-2003, 10:22 AM

Simply point him to studies conducted on split-brain patients (you know, people who have had their corpus callosum severed). There is bascially no way to justify the existence of a "mind" that exists separate from the physical brain in the light of those studies.

Albion · 07-28-2003, 12:57 PM

Well, I'm sure he does find it irritating. However, if he wants to be taken seriously, he'll just have to swallow his irritation and provide his sources. Course, if he doesn't want to be taken seriously, he can just carry on the way he's going.

pz · 07-28-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Late_Cretaceous
It seems the antics at Christian Forums just wont stop this week. In this thread Shane Roach started off by trying to say that science has neglected any study of human consciousness.

You are a bad, bad person to link to that morass of vacuous glop called ChristianForums. I will confess that I was amused to see Shane Roach complain that "I have also noticed that a good number of the folk who haunt these sorts of boards making sage pronouncements about scientists actually are not scientists..."

Shpongle · 07-28-2003, 08:32 PM

The thread on Satanic/Demonic/Evil Spirit Encounters is pretty amusing. Mainly the affronted reactions by some of the Christians to the skeptics.

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07-28-2003, 05:29 AM	#22
Roller Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cleveland Posts: 658	Listen to this one, from the Christian board (mostly Catholics and not English speaking). A thread appeared named "Marriage between couples of different faith?" Almost everyone considered that kind of marriage an abomination and that RCC would never approve of such marriages. Then one guy said how RCC has nothing against those kind of marriages, as long as children are raised in Catholic faith. Then he produced quotations from Vatican council that confirms that. Even after that, people still thought how such marriages are forbidden. Then another "incident" happened. Those same people started posting those awful stories about stuff that they can't rationalize and then their imaginary friend helps them with rationalization. Anyways, they started posting songs and texts without acknowledging the authors. Just copy/paste without authors name. Until one of the authors appeared on the board and asked why her name is not mentioned (they would just have to copy one more line where the authors name was, but no, no one would copy that). So the same guy appeared again and warned them that what they are doing constitutes plagiarism. They attacked they guy and he was forced to leave. Oh yeah, he was one of the moderators on that forum. I don't know what he was doing there since he was way too intelligent for that bunch. (edit: fixed formatting)

07-28-2003, 09:19 AM	#23
Late_Cretaceous Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,049	It seems the antics at Christian Forums just wont stop this week. In this thread Shane Roach started off by trying to say that science has neglected any study of human consciousness. Accordingly, science has neither tried - nor would be able in any case - to study the human consciousness. When I told him his post was full of shit and provided him a list of journals and organizations devoted to studying this he simply moved the goal posts. Apparently, science defines human consciousness differently then do lay people (but of course he can't demonstrate how or why). I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when he said he found it irritating to be asked to cite references for his inflammatory statements.

07-28-2003, 10:22 AM	#24
Lobstrosity Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 719	Simply point him to studies conducted on split-brain patients (you know, people who have had their corpus callosum severed). There is bascially no way to justify the existence of a "mind" that exists separate from the physical brain in the light of those studies.

07-28-2003, 12:57 PM	#25
Albion Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: US east coast. And www.theroyalforums.com Posts: 2,829	Well, I'm sure he does find it irritating. However, if he wants to be taken seriously, he'll just have to swallow his irritation and provide his sources. Course, if he doesn't want to be taken seriously, he can just carry on the way he's going.

07-28-2003, 08:32 PM	#27
Shpongle Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frozen North Posts: 9,920	The thread on Satanic/Demonic/Evil Spirit Encounters is pretty amusing. Mainly the affronted reactions by some of the Christians to the skeptics.

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