emur

That cuts both ways. A lack of confidence in the bible leads to a lack of belief in the resurrection.

Just for starters: it is errant, it doesn't fit with reality, it contains God sanctioned genocide, its theologies contradict, ...

So God decided not to communicate with them while they were seeking. What kind of God do you follow?

A Muslim will say the same thing.

Mel

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wj,

Wow. Ok. Didn't get it I guess? Man jumped into the river because he wanted to swim to the other side but was drawn under the powerful current and could not save himself on his own strength. Enter the rescuer.

BG

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emur

He did communicate with them. They stopped seeking, they stopped listening even though He was still talking.

BGic

winstonjen

Oh yes, change the facts to blame the victim. According to your analogy, jumping in the river is a parallel with being born.

Demigawd

I'd like to see the basis for this assertion, Billy Graham is drool, and no, biblical gymnastics will not do. You are making concrete, dogmatic judgements on the sincerity of others' quests for truth, and frankly, your credentials for doing so are very suspect.

You've admitted you've supposedly studied other religions and have arrived at the conclusion that they are false. Of course, you started with the assumption your faith is correct; therefore, any contradictory "knowledge" is wrong. That position is intellectually and ethically dishonest.

My challenge to you is either put up or shut up. Dispense immediately with claims of erroneous translations and laziness on the skeptic's part.

You have made yourself representative of the validity of the christian faith. Put something on the table other than "I believe this to be true" and "such-and-such movie provides a nebulous analogy to heaven-versus-hell."

emur

No he didn't. They stopped seeking because they didn't "hear" from God. You are placing your theology over their experience. You deny their experience because it doesn't fit your theology, yes?

Mel

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wj

Change the facts? In an analogy? Jumping into the river is simply choosing evil in my analogy.

Regards,
BGic

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Demigawd,

Drool? Name calling? Interesting tactic.

Who are these "others" that I am "judging?" Names would be good. And what are my credentials that you know?

I've admitted that I've "supposedly studied?" You sure about that?

Of course? Of course? How do you know that? Speaking of assumptions...

Skeptics do not have erroneous conceptions about the Bible? Erroneous translations occur, like here for example.

And I will. I intend to start a thread on the Resurrection shortly, after tying up a few loose ends, including this thread.

Demigawd, inserting "drool" in for "cool" in another's name and telling someone to "put up or shut up" is unbecoming netiquette (read: ad hominem attack). I won't deal with that next time.

Regards,
BGic

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emur,

I deny? As if these thoughts are all mine, all original? Romans 1 was written a long time ago:

For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools...

I suspect your beef is with Paul the apostle, and if Paul is correct (which I am confident that he is), ultimately God.

Regards,
BGic

Demigawd

See my post title. Are you so thin-skinned you cannot accept puns?

Granted, so far you've presented precious little valitidy for your stance beyond "this is what I believe". However, stating your beliefs (biblical interpretations) as matter of fact do not make them so.

You have stated in a previous thread that you've studied Islam, and found it false. False in the sense that it contradicts your Christian beliefs. Reading your own words makes me pretty sure about your theological stance.

I'm left quaking in my secular boots.