Bill Snedden

With apologies to Tolkien: "Deserved it? I daresay there are many miscreants that deserve compassion, and many patient, enduring souls that deserve insult. Will you give it to them?"

Of course, your response was what actually passed through my mind, but luckily there's a bit of delay between the mind and my fingers and my fingers have a bit more tact...

Regards,

Bill Snedden

Old Man

I thought the connection was obvious. Today you have laws made by deists & atheists. Christian laws, and by that I mean laws based on the Levitical law, went down the tube years ago.

The deist/atheist must defend the morality of his laws, against the biblical attack that they contravene divine morality. The reward of the adulteress with alimony and capital built up by the husband is institutionalized and ritual persecution by deists/atheists, of those unfortunate enought to fall victim to female immorality. A man, his wealth, his happiness, his legacy from his parents, is sacrificed on the altar of deism, so to speak, to appease the (obviously female) deist divinity - the naked whore on the scarlet beast from Revelation springs to mind.

Claiming that there is "no connection" between "tragic" (???) circumstances and desim/atheism does not hold water. If the circumstances are tragic, it is only because deism/atheism has made them tragic.

So, lets have deists and atheists defend the morality of deist & and atheist law. (And don't bring the constitution into it - that's irrelevant because it does not create or affect or supplant morality.)

Cipher Girl

Old man you saidPlease define "deist and atheist law". Perhaps before attacking such, you should give us reason why "biblical" law is something we should follow. I, personally don't think I would follow "biblical" law as it is barbaric and horrendous.
If I were to follow "biblical" law I guess I can have a field day killing homosexuals, babies, and anyone I don't like or who isn't like me. Luckily for me, I consider "biblical" law immoral.

Godless Dave

Are you saying those laws were better than the ones we have now? I agree with you there are unjust laws on the books in most countries that value human rights, but a return to the Levitical law would be much, much worse. The adulteress in this case would have been stoned to death, as would the women who aren't adulteresses but who don't bleed on their marriage bed. Plus it would devastate the pork and seafood industries.

Lobstrosity

Actually, I have a better idea. Let's have you explain just what's wrong with the morality of "atheist law" without referring to God at all. Your only complaint with atheist law is that it's not what God wants. You couldn't give two flying fucks how the law affects humans. Biblical law could order that all blacks need to be castrated and you would support it with everything you've got. The problem is that God is juat a figment of your imagination and you're left supporting laws that don't do jack for humanity. You're basically a destructive force working to unhinge society for the rest of us. It's quite sad.