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Mary and Mike · 02-09-2003, 05:54 PM

Hello everyone. I have been reading the boards for a few days now, it's been very enjoyable. My husband and myself are both atheists (Or for more definition we don't believe that there are any gods.)

A few years ago I was in a philosophy class and towards the end of the class we talked about the existance of god. There was about 25 of us in the classroom and only 2 of us were atheists. One time I had this woman who sat next to be who said she believed in god because of an incident that had happened, her ex had held a gun to her head and discharged it, but the gun got jammed or something and it didn't fire. She said she just knew that god had saved her. My belief was that she was just lucky and the gun had a mechanical failure. Out side of class she told me that someday, "I would find god." I wondered how I would find someone that I don't believe exsists.

I always see people who believe say that they believe because of the bible, and they always seem to quote from the bible to support that belief and faith, but the don't provide any other solid proof. That always is a sore spot with me since I believe that the bible was a well written book, but still doesn't prove that there is some all powerful being somewhere.

Luiseach · 02-09-2003, 05:57 PM

Hi Mary and Mike....welcome to the boards.

Are you both using the same nickname? :-D

Mary and Mike · 02-09-2003, 06:09 PM

Well, I will remember to make sure that I write my name or have my husband do the same after he or I writes something. We share everything else though, why not a board name?

Thanks for the welcome

Mary

Luiseach · 02-09-2003, 06:13 PM

No problem...the 2 for 1 idea - it's actually a good one, in my humble opinion!

Kinda fun figuring out who's saying what! :-D

Infidelettante · 02-09-2003, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mary and Mike
Hello everyone.
One time I had this woman who sat next to be who said she believed in god because of an incident that had happened, her ex had held a gun to her head and discharged it, but the gun got jammed or something and it didn't fire. She said she just knew that god had saved her.

I've always thought that kind of thinking was really sick. You
know...

"Da rest of da trailr park was wiped out but me n Mama
an da dogs made it out ok ah guess. Sur is bad bout all them
otha people but Ah'm guessn God was a lookin out fer us."

Why doesn't God watch out for eveybody

JT

And why are so many Christians against gun control? 'seems
there'd be at least one good Christian woman who would be
all for it.

Infidelettante · 02-09-2003, 06:57 PM

"Well yes officer, I nowd I shoulda tied it down but I never
thought nothin coulda picked that trailer up wit her in it"

JT

Mary and Mike · 02-09-2003, 07:02 PM

________________________________________________
I've always thought that kind of thinking was really sick. You
know...

"Da rest of da trailr park was wiped out but me n Mama
an da dogs made it out ok ah guess. Sur is bad bout all them
otha people but Ah'm guessn God was a lookin out fer us."

Why doesn't God watch out for eveybody

JT
________________________________________________

Well, you know, any good "christian" person would say, "God called all those people home that died, but he had a purpose for keeping those other people who lived, alive."

Which to me is even more sick thinking.

Mary

JEST2ASK · 02-09-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mary and Mike
Hello everyone. I have been reading the boards for a few days now, it's been very enjoyable. My husband and myself are both atheists (Or for more definition we don't believe that there are any gods.)

I always see people who believe say that they believe because of the bible, and they always seem to quote from the bible to support that belief and faith, but the don't provide any other solid proof. That always is a sore spot with me since I believe that the bible was a well written book, but still doesn't prove that there is some all powerful being somewhere.

Any particular parts you find well written and why?
Also is there a particular version (KJV - NIV etc) that appeals to you?

I find some interesting poetry in the O.T. but apart from 1-Corithians 13 there is not much in the N.T. that IMO is good writting.
(In the English translations I have read .... sorry I am not a multi-lingual person).

Family Man · 02-09-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mary and Mike
Well, you know, any good "christian" person would say, "God called all those people home that died, but he had a purpose for keeping those other people who lived, alive."

Which to me is even more sick thinking.

Mary

And, of course, this is both unverifiable and unfalsifiable. If something good happens, it is God. If something bad happens, it's free will.

And yet Christians still hold out their personal experiences as reliable evidence for God.

Mary and Mike · 02-09-2003, 07:49 PM

__________________________________________________ _
Originally posted by JEST2ASK
Any particular parts you find well written and why?
Also is there a particular version (KJV - NIV etc) that appeals to you?

I find some interesting poetry in the O.T. but apart from 1-Corithians 13 there is not much in the N.T. that IMO is good writting.
(In the English translations I have read .... sorry I am not a multi-lingual person).
__________________________________________________ __

Maybe in the 10 commandents....Don't kill...I think that is just morally wrong anyways. I have only read KJV.

Mary

02-09-2003, 05:54 PM	#1
Mary and Mike Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: In reality Posts: 21	First Post - Philosophy Class once and the Existance of God Hello everyone. I have been reading the boards for a few days now, it's been very enjoyable. My husband and myself are both atheists (Or for more definition we don't believe that there are any gods.) A few years ago I was in a philosophy class and towards the end of the class we talked about the existance of god. There was about 25 of us in the classroom and only 2 of us were atheists. One time I had this woman who sat next to be who said she believed in god because of an incident that had happened, her ex had held a gun to her head and discharged it, but the gun got jammed or something and it didn't fire. She said she just knew that god had saved her. My belief was that she was just lucky and the gun had a mechanical failure. Out side of class she told me that someday, "I would find god." I wondered how I would find someone that I don't believe exsists. I always see people who believe say that they believe because of the bible, and they always seem to quote from the bible to support that belief and faith, but the don't provide any other solid proof. That always is a sore spot with me since I believe that the bible was a well written book, but still doesn't prove that there is some all powerful being somewhere.

02-09-2003, 07:02 PM	#7
Mary and Mike Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: In reality Posts: 21	Re: Re: First Post - Philosophy Class once and the Existance of God ________________________________________________ I've always thought that kind of thinking was really sick. You know... "Da rest of da trailr park was wiped out but me n Mama an da dogs made it out ok ah guess. Sur is bad bout all them otha people but Ah'm guessn God was a lookin out fer us." Why doesn't God watch out for eveybody JT ________________________________________________ Well, you know, any good "christian" person would say, "God called all those people home that died, but he had a purpose for keeping those other people who lived, alive." Which to me is even more sick thinking. Mary

02-09-2003, 07:49 PM	#10
Mary and Mike Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: In reality Posts: 21	Re: Re: First Post - Philosophy Class once and the Existance of God __________________________________________________ _ Originally posted by JEST2ASK Any particular parts you find well written and why? Also is there a particular version (KJV - NIV etc) that appeals to you? I find some interesting poetry in the O.T. but apart from 1-Corithians 13 there is not much in the N.T. that IMO is good writting. (In the English translations I have read .... sorry I am not a multi-lingual person). __________________________________________________ __ Maybe in the 10 commandents....Don't kill...I think that is just morally wrong anyways. I have only read KJV. Mary

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02-09-2003, 05:57 PM	#2
Luiseach Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: limbo Posts: 986	Hi Mary and Mike....welcome to the boards. Are you both using the same nickname? :-D

02-09-2003, 06:09 PM	#3
Mary and Mike Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: In reality Posts: 21	Well, I will remember to make sure that I write my name or have my husband do the same after he or I writes something. We share everything else though, why not a board name? Thanks for the welcome Mary

02-09-2003, 06:13 PM	#4
Luiseach Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: limbo Posts: 986	No problem...the 2 for 1 idea - it's actually a good one, in my humble opinion! Kinda fun figuring out who's saying what! :-D

02-09-2003, 06:57 PM	#6
Infidelettante Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Deep South Posts: 889	"Well yes officer, I nowd I shoulda tied it down but I never thought nothin coulda picked that trailer up wit her in it" JT

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