NOGO

Further comments.

Somewhere in Acts Paul goes to Jerusalem.
He enters the temple as part of a rite to show that he has not abondoned his Jewish traditions and beliefs. He is then attacked because, we are told, he defiled the holy place by entering it with gentiles. It was illegal for Gentiles to enter the temple.

I do not recall the reference but I am sure that you can find it quite easily.

Combine this with Peter's dream which by implication casts Gentiles are unclean. He is told to stop calling unclean what God has made clean. So Gentiles were declared clean by God and not by anything that they may have done or need to do.

Combine this with Jesus saying "you don't give the bread of the children to the dogs". The implication is that non-Jews are dogs.

Combine this with Mt 10 where Jesus tells his disciples not to go to the Gentiles.

What all this shows is that Jesus had the same prejudices toward non-Jews are did many of his contemporaries.

jmborr

Well, they can't ! At least they can't in the way you and I can do it here right now, since they are dead. Now, I don't know whether God provided another option for those dead people. Again, I don't know whether in the Bible there is indication of an option for those dead people.
Now, it is interesting to note how Jesus talks of the dead. It seems that for him they are alive, like John 8:56, and mostly Luke 20:34-39. In particular, in Luke 20:35 Jesus says some of the dead will be in God's presence "if they are worthy". I don't dare to interpret what "if they are worthy" means here.
What people are you referring to ? If you are referring to the characters of the Bible, I am not surprised. The characters of the Bible are people who miserably fail and fell short of God's grace. Adam, Eve, Cain, Moses, David, Solomon, ... actually most of the Bible's heroes are losers at some time in their lives, because they are just humans. This is why I like the Bible. It is not about a bunch of perfect prudes, but real people.
The people may do wrong, but not the law, because the law is the (high) standard by which they are proved wrong. Jesus knows how to administer the law. He is perfect (but not a prude because he is humble too ! )
But you were quite picky gathering the passages. I also showed you other passages in the gospel where it seems otherwise to me. If not, we wouldn't have this conversation.
Jesus had MERCY to non-Jews who showed him faith. This is contrary to the "not-a-hoot" attitude you abscribe him. To this I hold, that I was considered by Jesus a God fearing person before becoming a christian.
There is a clear cut filter by which a person can become a follower of Jesus. This filter is John 6:37 "All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away". This means that you can only become christian once you are "pre-approved" by God the Father. What more credentials do you need ? No need to be Jew of origin, but a God fearing person who truly repent.
Poor Paul, everybody allways against him
Paul is dangerous to interpret, because when he compares God's grace (Jesus) to the O.T. law, then he really despises the latter. This I think is due to his past background as a pharisee. The
law as interpreted by the pharisees made him do horrible things, like the stoning of Stephen. He suffered in his own life the dangers of misinterpreting the O.T. law, so he tended to despise the law when compared to Jesus' salvation.
Yet he worked more than anybody for the Gospel, he did not just lied in the sofa, "saved by faith" alone.
Yes, I think that Jesus assumed that if a person was not native from Judea of Galilee, then he was not a believer. This is why God has to "give you" to Jesus before, so that he will not reject you.
By the way, Matt 10 is called the first commision. There is a second commission at the end of Matt, but I assume you rule it out because this was after the ressurection. Very picky again

NOGO

To me this is an oversight of the people who created Christianity. Their message was to the living. You have to admit that if all that is required for salvation is belief in Jesus then the dead cannot possibly comply. So God's plan as described in the Bible eliminates far too many people.


We obviously do not agree on this one.
You are content with the except. I am not.
To me to consider Jesus as the saviour of the world he would have had to have said it plainly and clearly. A statement such as "I am here to save anyone who believes" would have been ok except for the dead who cannot believe in anything. Instead Jesus says the opposite "I am here only for the children of the house of Israel". To me this is non starter. Wrong guy, wrong mission.

This is however not the only problem that I point out. Jesus does not relate his mission to Adam's sin and God's promise to send a saviour. You see if he had then it would have been obvious that all of humanity are involved because Adam is supposed to be the father of all mankind. He was not Hebrew nor Greek. He was a man.


You are referring to Mt28:19
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit"

As I told you before this verse is a later addition. The concept of the trinity as the Father, Son and HS came in the early 4th century when the NT canon was put together. Jesus never said that.

I rule it out because ... it is a fraud.

Jesus, as a Jew, knew very well that only Jews believed in Yahweh. That goes without saying. Every people had their own religion and their own Gods.

For Jesus to concentrate only on people who believed in the Jewish God is absurd. As a saviour for all humanity he should have made it clear to his disciples what his mission was right from the start. At least not say anything against it like "I have come only for the children of the house of Israel".

You see, even the poeple who put together the NT canon realized that something was amiss. That is why they added the "second commision" as you put it.

jmborr,
You are concentrating on only one issue, that is, whether Jesus' message was for everyone or not. What about the rest?