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JaeIsGod · 07-24-2003, 12:50 PM

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Well, you can't really get much weirder than the Raelians. Kinda like Scientology, but not as sinister. They're just plain goofy. And really, really, ... open about sexual matters.

http://www.rael.org/english/index.html

Any religion started by a French sports reporter has gotta be a frontrunner for the maximum oddness quotient... after all, they just had a NAKED demonstration in FAVOUR of genetically modified food.

By the way, if the Mormons had actually named the religion after the angel, wouldn't it be known as Moronism?

Those raelians sound pretty goofy yes. But in a childish innocent way , its one of those things I might actually join , just because they are so damn funny. Must be cool to tell people you believe in aliengods.

Oh btw , does elohim really mean "Those who came from the sky"? I heard the same thing on discovery channel once in a program about aliens & origin of life =]

Aravnah Ornan · 07-24-2003, 12:54 PM

Spiritualism must at least make the quarter finals. No matter how many of its leading lights admit that the whole thing is a sham, no matter how many secrets of cold reading and s�ances are exposed as parlor tricks, no matter how closely the ectoplasm resembles fabric and drips glow-in-the-dark paint, people continue to believe it.

The funniest story about Spritualism can be found here. If the medium had been even the tiniest bit on the ball, she surely could have some up with a better story, e.g., that the dead all speak some heavenly language that no one in this life except a medium can understand and translate.

Deadbeat · 07-24-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by JaeIsGod
Those raelians sound pretty goofy yes. But in a childish innocent way , its one of those things I might actually join , just because they are so damn funny.

And the sex. Don't forget all the sex.

JaeIsGod · 07-24-2003, 01:54 PM

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And the sex. Don't forget all the sex.

Huh? What sex? I didnt read much of that site. Is there sex involved?

southernhybrid · 07-24-2003, 02:49 PM

So you guys think these are crazier that meat and potato Xianity. I mean here comes this babe, Mary who claims that she got knocked up by this god guy who is really supernatural and perfect, knowing all things and such. He knocks her up but she's still a virgin so she gets this sucker Joseph to marry her even though he knows she's knocked up. She tells all these people that the holy spirit made her pregnant and the dumbass people believe it.

Mary and Joe travel to the city to pay their taxes but can't find a pad to rent for the night so somebody lets them stay in a barn for the night. There, the virgin gives birth without so much as a midwife and there's all these animals bowing down to the baby. You know the song, cattle were lowing and all that jazz. All of a sudden along come these three guys with some pretty offbeat gifts for the baby. They claim that a star led them to the kid and they believe he's some kind of god in the flesh. What kind of drugs were these dudes using!

Long story short, the kid grows up, feeds a crowd as large as Woodstock with a couple of loafs of bread and some little fish, cures a bunch of cripples, and even raised one guy from the dead. 12 guys start following him around trying to get on his good side and choking down his every word. The Jesus guy hangs out with some pretty wild women, never marries and yet his followers assume that he's not only a virgin but straight at that.

He gets really popular because he befriends the common man and gives some pretty charismatic speeches. Blessed are the poor for they shall inherit the kingdom of god is real popular with the lower class. Anyway the powers that be don't like any of this so they crucify him. Even though he's supposed to be superhuman he asks god his father to let him out of the gig. His dad is really strict so he just lets his ass die.

A couple of days later, his followers say they saw him and he's not dead. Actually they claim that he was dead but now he's not dead. He hangs around for a bit and then takes off for the sky. Although he claims to be back soon, he's still not showed up even after 2K years.

People all over the world are still believing this incredibly dumb story and waiting for the Jesus guy to come back to earth and snatch up all of those gullible enough to believe the story. The same people think that everybody else is gonna die and then wake up to be roasted and tortured in this really hot place called hell forever and ever simply because they didn't believe that Jesus was anything more than just a guy.

That is a pretty whacky religion imo.

TomboyMom · 07-24-2003, 03:06 PM

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So you guys think these are crazier that meat and potato Xianity.

And in some variations, during the religious service, adherents ceremonially/symbolically devour the flesh and drink the blood of their dead and resurrected god, Jesus. Now that is weird.

Rene

Sr. Zonules · 07-24-2003, 08:27 PM

One mustn't forget about the Branch Davidians... Although that spin-off from the 7th Day Adventists is more of a doomsday cult, like heaven's gate, et al. David Koresh (Mr. Howell before he changed his name) is (was, he's quite dead now) the only person who didn't have to be celebate, and he had many "spiritual wives" i.e. sex slave, many of whom were as young as 11 or 12. He also married his first (?) wife when he was 25; she was 14.

Umm... yeah

-Z

Bree · 07-24-2003, 08:49 PM

The Masons aren't technically a religion, per se, but they're pretty whacked-out too.

Nialler · 07-25-2003, 05:22 AM

I vote for xianity as well.

The sad thing is that nearly of these "whacky" religions are also very very dangerous. I include xianity.

Is "whacky" really the right word to use? I'd treat all of these much more seriously...

Marduk · 07-25-2003, 02:29 PM

�Oh btw , does elohim really mean "Those who came from the sky"? I heard the same thing on discovery channel once in a program about aliens & origin of life�

No. it is usually translated as God or Gods but I don�t know the literal translation. El always refers to some God or another in middle eastern godspeak. Nephilim means �fallen�, presumably they are the ones who fell from the sky. Though they are often referred to as the children of Earth women and the sons of the gods or Ben ha Elohim. Go figure, the alien stuff is probably true.

07-24-2003, 08:27 PM	#17
Sr. Zonules Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: N 47� 11� 14�, W 122� 10� 08� Posts: 82	Waco, TX One mustn't forget about the Branch Davidians... Although that spin-off from the 7th Day Adventists is more of a doomsday cult, like heaven's gate, et al. David Koresh (Mr. Howell before he changed his name) is (was, he's quite dead now) the only person who didn't have to be celebate, and he had many "spiritual wives" i.e. sex slave, many of whom were as young as 11 or 12. He also married his first (?) wife when he was 25; she was 14. Umm... yeah -Z

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Aravnah Ornan Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA, Faith-Based States of Jesusland Posts: 1,794	Spiritualism must at least make the quarter finals. No matter how many of its leading lights admit that the whole thing is a sham, no matter how many secrets of cold reading and s�ances are exposed as parlor tricks, no matter how closely the ectoplasm resembles fabric and drips glow-in-the-dark paint, people continue to believe it. The funniest story about Spritualism can be found here. If the medium had been even the tiniest bit on the ball, she surely could have some up with a better story, e.g., that the dead all speak some heavenly language that no one in this life except a medium can understand and translate.

07-24-2003, 02:49 PM	#15
southernhybrid Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: heavenly Georgia Posts: 3,862	So you guys think these are crazier that meat and potato Xianity. I mean here comes this babe, Mary who claims that she got knocked up by this god guy who is really supernatural and perfect, knowing all things and such. He knocks her up but she's still a virgin so she gets this sucker Joseph to marry her even though he knows she's knocked up. She tells all these people that the holy spirit made her pregnant and the dumbass people believe it. Mary and Joe travel to the city to pay their taxes but can't find a pad to rent for the night so somebody lets them stay in a barn for the night. There, the virgin gives birth without so much as a midwife and there's all these animals bowing down to the baby. You know the song, cattle were lowing and all that jazz. All of a sudden along come these three guys with some pretty offbeat gifts for the baby. They claim that a star led them to the kid and they believe he's some kind of god in the flesh. What kind of drugs were these dudes using! Long story short, the kid grows up, feeds a crowd as large as Woodstock with a couple of loafs of bread and some little fish, cures a bunch of cripples, and even raised one guy from the dead. 12 guys start following him around trying to get on his good side and choking down his every word. The Jesus guy hangs out with some pretty wild women, never marries and yet his followers assume that he's not only a virgin but straight at that. He gets really popular because he befriends the common man and gives some pretty charismatic speeches. Blessed are the poor for they shall inherit the kingdom of god is real popular with the lower class. Anyway the powers that be don't like any of this so they crucify him. Even though he's supposed to be superhuman he asks god his father to let him out of the gig. His dad is really strict so he just lets his ass die. A couple of days later, his followers say they saw him and he's not dead. Actually they claim that he was dead but now he's not dead. He hangs around for a bit and then takes off for the sky. Although he claims to be back soon, he's still not showed up even after 2K years. People all over the world are still believing this incredibly dumb story and waiting for the Jesus guy to come back to earth and snatch up all of those gullible enough to believe the story. The same people think that everybody else is gonna die and then wake up to be roasted and tortured in this really hot place called hell forever and ever simply because they didn't believe that Jesus was anything more than just a guy. That is a pretty whacky religion imo.

07-24-2003, 08:49 PM	#18
Bree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Twin Cities, USA Posts: 3,197	The Masons aren't technically a religion, per se, but they're pretty whacked-out too.

07-25-2003, 05:22 AM	#19
Nialler Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Paris Posts: 8,473	I vote for xianity as well. The sad thing is that nearly of these "whacky" religions are also very very dangerous. I include xianity. Is "whacky" really the right word to use? I'd treat all of these much more seriously...

07-25-2003, 02:29 PM	#20
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	�Oh btw , does elohim really mean "Those who came from the sky"? I heard the same thing on discovery channel once in a program about aliens & origin of life� No. it is usually translated as God or Gods but I don�t know the literal translation. El always refers to some God or another in middle eastern godspeak. Nephilim means �fallen�, presumably they are the ones who fell from the sky. Though they are often referred to as the children of Earth women and the sons of the gods or Ben ha Elohim. Go figure, the alien stuff is probably true.

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