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Old 06-14-2003, 03:49 PM   #31
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"Rational" I remember that my Da used to talk about "blowing" people. In a bar he would say to his mates "Come on let me blow you." What he meant was that he would pay for a round of beer. To "blow" someone meant to treat them. I had to take him aside and explain how English had changed without him noticing.
In the play South Pacific Nurse Forebush sings about being merry and "gay"--yet the whole show is about her heterosexuality. The word changed.

AD and BC have changed, get over it.
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Sorry Biff---

I will never get over it.

Nor will I ever "get over" under God being stuck in the Pledge.

Nor will I ever get over those dammmed Anglo-Saxons taking a legitimate French word like Celtic with an "s" sound and making it into an anglo-saxon "k" sound.

Hey------if the dammed Anglos want to make "celtic" into a "k" sound than they damned better well spell it with a "K".

Spell celtic with a "c" and pronounce it with a "k" sound, then you are a bunch of lying bastard (but very typical in that sense) Anglo-Saxons.
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All of which reminds me. ------

I will also NEVER pronounce celtic with a "K" sound.

That was also fairly recently "mandated" by the "powers that be." It was a French word. Most of the Celts were originally of French origin. And there is no way that "c" followed by "e" can ever be anything but an "s" sound.

Anglo-Saxon basstards want to rule the world. But they are seriously incorrect on this one.

I say to all the "controllers of language" to just stick it up their buttts. I will never conform.
Well, here in Ireland, the "C" letter in Irish Gaelic ALWAYS has a hard K sound (there's no K in Gaelic). So we'd never sound it with a soft "S" sound. We berate and laugh at Glasgow Celtic, the Boston Celtics etc. for using that silly soft "C".

But that's language for you, the spelling and pronunciation make no motherfucking sense at all. Deal with it.


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I was married to a red-headed Irishwoman for 30 years.

I learned to duck pretty well.
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Sorry Biff---

I will never get over it.

Nor will I ever "get over" under God being stuck in the Pledge.

Nor will I ever get over those dammmed Anglo-Saxons taking a legitimate French word like Celtic with an "s" sound and making it into an anglo-saxon "k" sound.

Hey------if the dammed Anglos want to make "celtic" into a "k" sound than they damned better well spell it with a "K".

Spell celtic with a "c" and pronounce it with a "k" sound, then you are a bunch of lying bastard (but very typical in that sense) Anglo-Saxons.
Sounds like you have your fair share of personal issues to deal with here.

We all have our issues,but I hope you do realize that it's incorrect and down right rude to make people outside your religion continue to pay homage to your god with the BC/AD terminology.
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Oh Celtic…I've actually done some study on it's pronunciation.
It started as a Greek word Keltoi which is definitely a hard C.
Then it was taken up by the Romans. In Latin it's
Celtae which is definitely a soft "C" like the basketball team.
So the definitive answer to the question "Is Celtic pronounced with a hard C or a soft?" is YES.
If you think comes from the Greek, through the Gaul's, into English it's hard. If it comes into English through the Latin then it's soft.

In our own language the race is called the Ir (as in Ireland) which really just means "people." It came to mean specifically us only when we realized that there were other people.
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The world is divided into two groups
The Ir
And those who "are having a wonderful time; wish you were Ir"
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Well, here in Ireland, the "C" letter in Irish Gaelic ALWAYS has a hard K sound (there's no K in Gaelic)
Now, now Duck. You know and I know that Celtic is an English word and not Gaelic. And we also know that in Ireland, Irish is spoken. Gaelic is something the Scots do (and do poorly if you ask me).
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I have nothing against celtic pronounced with a "K" sound as long as you spell it keltic--which actually is a legitimate spelling of it. Spell it celtic and it is the soft "s" sound for me.

Too much personal French influence for me to pronounce a "C" followed by an "E" as anything other than a soft "s" sound.

Sorry about that.

But you damned Anglos do anything you damned well please. That is what you do naturally anyway.
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Oh CelticÂ…I've actually done some study on it's pronunciation.
It started as a Greek word Keltoi which is definitely a hard C.
Then it was taken up by the Romans. In Latin it's
Celtae which is definitely a soft "C" like the basketball team.
So the definitive answer to the question "Is Celtic pronounced with a hard C or a soft?" is YES.
If you think comes from the Greek, through the Gaul's, into English it's hard. If it comes into English through the Latin then it's soft.

In our own language the race is called the Ir (as in Ireland) which really just means "people." It came to mean specifically us only when we realized that there were other people.
Well, my next point was going to be that the word Celtic has it's origins from the Greek "Keltoi" which would be pronounced with a hard K.

But you've already confirmted this Biff.


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