Nialler

I see that he E/C forum at baptistboard.com has re-opened at long last.

They've new rules, though.

"Creation/evolution boards on the net have a habit of degenerating into insults and mockery. This not only stops discussions, but discourages many people from posting and asking questions. Therefore, all submissions will be by email to science@baptistmail.com and will be reviewed before being posted, and edited if necessary. Questions from anyone not familiar with science or this area of discussion are welcome and will be treated courteously. We suggest reading the archived discussions below to see what has already been said in any subject area. If you choose to respond, please put the title of that thread in your email title. If you would like to start a new thread on a different subject, that’s fine, too. Current discussions will be transferred to the archives on a periodic basis."

So now, you are forced to address you submissions to an address that has "science" in the title - which is anathema to me, and also your post can apparently be edited at their discretion before it's placed on the board.

Intolerable.

Looks like they've circled the wagons, and it's gonna be lots of hassle to make a point there.

It also looks as if Helen will never have to defend her attack (without supporting evidence) on the science (and the scientists) of radiometric dating.

Sheer cowardice.

donotworry

Well, creationists do have every right to claim they are using science as well as evolutionists. After all...what better way to prove evolution as a total farce than with science (which is what they are attempting to do)?

There is a difference in the evolutionistic and creationistic approaches though. Creationists already know the answer to the 1 main questions (how), evolutionists are trying to convince themselves otherwise.

As always, Jesus is God. He loves you. He wants you. Just repent and open up to Him. It will change your life.

manhattan

Interesting how you put that. It's a correct statement, but in a different way than you might think. Evolutionists are constantly testing the theory against the evidence -- does it hold up to this? What about that? So in a sense, scientists are always trying to challenge the theory. Creationists, on the other hand, have simply decided that they know -- no evidence is needed.

That probably wasn't meant to read nearly as sexy as it did. You might want to work on the phrasing, lest someone take it the wrong way.

[ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: manhattan ]</p>

donotworry

Well, that is not necessarily true. Evolutionists quite often try to make something fit into the evolution pattern (think Pepper moths and London mosquitoes).

I will admit that there are quite a few creationists out there that will use tired and old ideas(dinosaur and human footprints - Paluxy Tracks, the second law of thermodynamics started at the fall), but then again, so do evolutionists (the two mentioned above and the appendix as a vestigial organ, winged vs. wingless beetles, Archaeopteryx and Archaeoraptor...to name a few).

Creation Science is not an oxymoron. Just because you know the answer before hand does not mean that you know how or why something occurred (hey, that apple just fell out of the tree and hit me on the head.... how? Why?).

hyzer

Donotworry –

So do tell . . . ., why did the apple accelerate to the ground? Godditit? Or gravity?

Coragyps

donotworry - pray tell us more about tired old Archaeopterex. How do you find it unsuitable for demonstrating evolutionary principles?

hezekiah jones

You call that science?

<a href="http://www.icr.org/abouticr/tenets.htm" target="_blank">ICR's Tenets of Biblical Creationism</a>

Darwin's Finch

And while you're at it, donotworry, please enlighten us as to the nature of the scientific method. Last time I checked, invoking God, gremlins and the sort was considered cheating.

ex-robot

I'm sure he or she doesn't and neither does ICR.

xr

scigirl

From donotworry's profile:
Basic Beliefs: Christian...only because I can't
stand being wrong!

Enough said,

Scigirl