Deputy42

had a really long reply set up, but i lost it. was using the back and forth buttons to go from page 5 to my reply. then went on to page 6, then cant find my post. any suggestions?

Queen of Swords

Yes. Pray.

Mageth

Yup. You can lose your post if you leave the post page. I typically open a second window, or "copy all", if I'm going to switch pages.

Deputy42

absolute gender roles are a touchy subject. utlimately, the choice to be anything resides in the individual. men are better at impregnating women than women are at impregnating women.

thats the free will argument and i'm sure you've heard it before.

despite your attempt to classify paul as merely a woman-hating, opressive male thug, the truth is otherwise. i would direct you to 1 thes. 2. paul also says that we are nothing without love. that despite having all knowledge and gifts, we are nothing. do you disagree with that assertion as well?

if you had read the part about plato's apology, you would know that even socrates didn't have knowledge about the excellent human life. does that mean paul does not? the only way to know is to live it. why? because you view paul and christians from the outside, you don't see the inside. neither do you experience the joys associated with such practice.

thats an easy cost/benefit analysis. senators face questions like this everyday...should he not vote for a good bill merely because there are a few additions he doesn't agree with?

again if you focus on one aspect, you will only see that aspect.

no exaggeration here. goes to show that two cultures, when brought together, can clash and spell doom for the other. are western values BETTER than chinese values? thats a tricky subject, just like judging paul strictly by todays pc standards.

men with natually low levels of test. take supplements of testosterne. these men experience emotional and physical changes; many of these are different than the ones felt by women undergoing hormone replacement.

clearly emotional states are effected by biology. that was the point of the reference.

i think determining a good teacher depends on their knowledge of the subject and the effectiveness of their teaching methods. would a man 2000 even LISTEN to a woman teach? "it takes two to lie. one to lie and one to listen" Homer simpson

girls need male role models just like boys need female role models. girls have an emotional need for positive male role models. a girls relationship with her father largely determines her attitude toward her husband. ask my sister, she knows.

while biology will take over in cases of human reproduction, does it mean that the individual in question will be emotionally complete and well adjusted? people are much more than biology, i thought you knew that. just like a grape will be merely a tangled vine without braces, so will a child without proper guidance.

dogma
1 a : something held as an established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet b : a code of such tenets <pedagogical dogma> c : a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds

"no means no"? we all know that no doesnt always mean no. "any unwanted sexual advance"? 99% of all sexual advances are unwanted. should i continue?

Deputy42

QUOTE] No – I am not belittling you because you DECIDE to work, instead of waiting for a “handout”. I have attacked your argument (not YOU personally) because it is ill informed and poorly constructed. If you believe financial aid and scholarships are a “handout” why the hell are you complaining that it’s such an injustice that you haven’t received one? Are YOU waiting around for one? Have you applied for all the college scholarships and financial aid available to you via your school? [/QUOTE]

i don't attack scholarships on the basis that they are handouts. i attack those scholarships that use race and gender as criteria for acceptance.

i do not work for the opportunity to pay for school. i have educational costs and i work to pay them. there is a difference.

on the contrary, people with redistributive and restorative agendas have the most preoccupation with entitlement.

you betray your personal view of your own opinions. i accept your challenge, yet i wonder why i am characterized as being loathesome? is it because i dont agree with your socialist agenda?

Deputy42

sorry 3400 years check it
<a href="http://www.bibleinfo.com/bibleinfo_default.asp?Lang=English" target="_blank">here</a>

Deputy42

i am interested to hear what your thougts are regarding social utopia. however counting some thoughts as "bad" and some as "good", or more precisely, some socially beneficial and some socially destructive, is dangerous.

i characterize you in this way because you are just as intolerant of dissenting views as christianity.

essentially, the atheistic worldview, and the christian worldview are similiar because you both are intolerant of different "opinions".

i cant speak for christianity as a whole, but as i've said before, i think that some of st pauls sentiments are best not used as the basis for christian practice in todays society.

im sorry, on one hand people don't want to have their intellects insulted, yet on the other you fail to make obvious connections. i will try to do better, and i apologize to those whom i offended.

free thought.....
free thought is thought without bounds. no thoughts are good or bad. or free thought is the state of human affairs wherein individuals are able to think and posit ideas as they choose

Deputy42

define what god is. if you simply say god is "anything supernatural" then you are simply a materialist. if thats not a worldview i don't know what is.

whenever anyone says "dog", you as a person hear the sounds spoken. this moves from your ear to your brain. as such those sounds have no meaning. upon hearing those sounds you automatically think of a cute furry puppy. however not everyone sees the same furry creature when they hear the word dog.

point is language and everything else is meaningless without the value placed on it by people.

i imagine your logic condemning st paul is as follows.
paul instructs women to not speak in church.
not speaking in church leads to inequality between men and women.
anyone whose teachings lead to inequality for women hates women.
therefore
paul hates women

in this line of reasoning you make many assumptions.
1. anyone whose teachings lead to inequality for women hates women.
2. implicitly, you assume hatred of women is bad.

if this is not correct, please add to or fix the logic.

true, but only a man can feel joy at his being a man. and neither can a man feel happy that he is a woman, only a woman can do that.

lpetrich

I may have been somewhat careless in specifying how the car is to use water as a fuel.

However, being powered by chemical reactions and only using water can be shown to be thermodynamically impossible, because other combinations of hydrogen and oxygen have more internal energy relative to water.

It might be possible to combine water and air to produce nitric acid, but using the data at<a href="http://webbook.nist.gov/chemistry/" target="_blank">this chemistry-data site</a> reveals that doing this would consume energy. And the same is true of combining nitrogen and oxygen from air to form nitrogen oxides.

It might be possible to devise some miniature fusion reactor that extracts deuterium from the hydrogen in water, but I'm not going to bet on that happening anytime soon.

I'd put that down to conspiracy-mongering. Whatever car companies have been willing to do, this is not one of them.

Reverend Ruin

And Deputy's credibility comes to a grinding halt. Thank you, goodbye.

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