Freethought & Rationalism Archive

tgamble · 03-15-2003, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete Harcoff
WTF? I tried to access it and get a message saying, "these pages are intended for access only from within the United States".

Bad enough retailers won't ship outside the U.S., but not being able to access a f*cking web site?!?

Christ, what idiocy.

Damn right!

BRO3886 · 03-15-2003, 12:51 PM

Annoying.

my dog earl · 03-15-2003, 02:44 PM

Like Pete, I can't view their website either. But having seen the show I was more than a little disappointed with it. I don't really know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that.

Cretinist · 03-15-2003, 05:16 PM

Use a proxy.

Atheist121 · 03-15-2003, 05:57 PM

Right, the show was disappointing. My problem with it was that they really didn't get across how BS-ish Creationism is. Some quick things I wish they had pointed out:

1. What a theory is. The mentioned it, but didn't go into detail.

2. Creationist misquotes. 2-3 of these would have gotten the point across about how dishonest Creationists are.

3. Young Earth. Mention how about a dozen or so fields all have converging evidence that contradicts this.

4. Using tired, defeated arguments. 2nd LoT comes to mind, but I'm sure there are other good ones.

5. Conspiracy theory. I don't see this argued much, but Creationism is the biggest conspiracy theory I've ever seen. Thousands of scientists in fields from geology to biology from all races, nationalities and religions across a period of over 100 years have all gotten together to lie, and the only people who can see this are a relatively small group of fundamentalist Christians and Muslims. I spelled it out a bit further once, and it's just ridiculous.

6. Rejecting BBT, even though many consider it to have theistic implications.

I'm a much better show could have been made if they consulted the people on this show, first

LordSnooty · 03-16-2003, 04:46 AM

To anyone that has a digital recording of this episode on their computer: please do not PM me with a kind offer to send me a copy.

Although I would very much like to see this particular episode, and would be extremely grateful to anyone that could help, it would be illegal, and revolting. I would be physically sick.

Thanks,

Paul

tgamble · 03-16-2003, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LordSnooty
To anyone that has a digital recording of this episode on their computer: please do not PM me with a kind offer to send me a copy.

Although I would very much like to see this particular episode, and would be extremely grateful to anyone that could help, it would be illegal, and revolting. I would be physically sick.
Thanks,
Paul

Would it be illegal? Is it legal to tape a show on your vcr, make a copy and give it to a friend? Probably not.

Valentine Pontifex · 03-16-2003, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tgamble
Would it be illegal? Is it legal to tape a show on your vcr, make a copy and give it to a friend? Probably not.

Strickly speaking it is illegal. So is 56 mph in a 55 mph zone. But in practice giving a copy to somone you know with no charge is not going to get you in trouble. 1) At one copy with no charge it is a civil offense and the damages involved are trivial next to the lawyer's fees. 2) It would not be good PR to go after such a person. 3) Finding a jury that will convict for such an offense is very unlikely.

MyKell · 03-16-2003, 07:53 AM

I can't find a copy on Kazaa! Can anyone guide me to a place I can download a copy, a PM would be great

Butters · 03-16-2003, 08:20 AM

If you can access their forums, do so, it's a laugh riot! Most of the less informed creationist's get shamed off this board quickly, but it's a free for all over there!

-B

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

03-15-2003, 12:51 PM	#12
BRO3886 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 48	Annoying.

03-15-2003, 02:44 PM	#13
my dog earl Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 149	Like Pete, I can't view their website either. But having seen the show I was more than a little disappointed with it. I don't really know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that.

03-15-2003, 05:16 PM	#14
Cretinist Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 399	Use a proxy.

03-15-2003, 05:57 PM	#15
Atheist121 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 292	Right, the show was disappointing. My problem with it was that they really didn't get across how BS-ish Creationism is. Some quick things I wish they had pointed out: 1. What a theory is. The mentioned it, but didn't go into detail. 2. Creationist misquotes. 2-3 of these would have gotten the point across about how dishonest Creationists are. 3. Young Earth. Mention how about a dozen or so fields all have converging evidence that contradicts this. 4. Using tired, defeated arguments. 2nd LoT comes to mind, but I'm sure there are other good ones. 5. Conspiracy theory. I don't see this argued much, but Creationism is the biggest conspiracy theory I've ever seen. Thousands of scientists in fields from geology to biology from all races, nationalities and religions across a period of over 100 years have all gotten together to lie, and the only people who can see this are a relatively small group of fundamentalist Christians and Muslims. I spelled it out a bit further once, and it's just ridiculous. 6. Rejecting BBT, even though many consider it to have theistic implications. I'm a much better show could have been made if they consulted the people on this show, first

03-16-2003, 04:46 AM	#16
LordSnooty Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 211	To anyone that has a digital recording of this episode on their computer: please do not PM me with a kind offer to send me a copy. Although I would very much like to see this particular episode, and would be extremely grateful to anyone that could help, it would be illegal, and revolting. I would be physically sick. Thanks, Paul

03-16-2003, 07:53 AM	#19
MyKell Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Amman, Jordan Posts: 258	I can't find a copy on Kazaa! Can anyone guide me to a place I can download a copy, a PM would be great

03-16-2003, 08:20 AM	#20
Butters Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 444	If you can access their forums, do so, it's a laugh riot! Most of the less informed creationist's get shamed off this board quickly, but it's a free for all over there! -B

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.