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CheeseheadHeathen · 07-19-2002, 10:51 AM

Just in case anyone missed it:

<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm" target="_blank">USA Today poll</a>

[ July 19, 2002: Message edited by: CheeseheadHeathen ]</p>

Oxidizing Material · 07-19-2002, 10:53 AM

Sad

Krieger · 07-19-2002, 10:58 AM

Geeze, only 9.88% "yes" . . .

CheeseheadHeathen · 07-19-2002, 11:38 AM

Try voting a few times--you'll find that the "number of responses" goes up about 10-15 votes every three seconds (no exaggeration). A whole bunch of fundies are sitting their voting and voting and voting all day...as though it actually mattered what the outcome of this poll is.

crazyfingers · 07-19-2002, 11:48 AM

Way back on the big day I recall that CNN had two basically identical polls. One was on the main page and showed results like this one.

The other was on the business/financial page and was more like 60/40. Not a majority but 40% agreeing with the 9th was very interesting.

Krieger · 07-19-2002, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CheeseheadHeathen:
<strong>Try voting a few times--you'll find that the "number of responses" goes up about 10-15 votes every three seconds (no exaggeration). A whole bunch of fundies are sitting their voting and voting and voting all day...as though it actually mattered what the outcome of this poll is.</strong>

You're right. It is down to 9.85% "yes" now.

marylandnaturegirl · 07-19-2002, 12:25 PM

I have been spreading the word about this poll and article as well. If you would like to do so also please copy and paste the remainder of my email.

Please pass this on to as many non-believers as you can.

Also an interesting yet depressing article on DOJ and Ashcroft trying
to keep pledge "as is".

USA Today is taking a vote on whether the words "Under God" should
be removed from the pledge of allegiance. You can vote by going to the
following website.

<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm</a>

don't get made...get writing to your elected officials...let them
know your opinion on this AND that you VOTE!
go to:
<a href="http://capwiz.com/au/home/" target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/au/home/</a>

Once there you can easily email your Reps get ideas and have media
contact addresses too. At least email but the BEST is to send
handwritten Fax or handwritten letter as the more effort a contact
takes with elected official the higher tally mark it is given
statistically by the staffers.

For instance, a handwritten letter that was mailed takes the most
effort and will be given the tally weight of for example 400-500
people that felt the same way but weren't willing to take the time to
write. An email, since takes such little effort might only get the
tally of 5 or 10 people that feel the same way for example.

But at least do SOME method. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

HELP!

Also try to attend the Godless March on Washington DC

<a href="http://www.godlessamercians.org" target="_blank">http://www.godlessamercians.org</a>

Corwin · 07-19-2002, 12:44 PM

Don't the IDIOTS who do these polls know how to log IP addresses? Dammit it's a line or two of code referencing ONE FREAKIN PROGRAM!!!!!

*grumbles*

daemon · 07-19-2002, 02:28 PM

While we might like to think that there are fundies wasting their time, it's probably one or two with automated scripts posting to it repeatedly.

Yes is down to 9.78% now.

Oresta · 07-20-2002, 05:55 AM

Quote:

crazyfingers: Way back on the big day I recall that CNN had two basically identical polls. One was on the main page and showed results like this one.
The other was on the business/financial page and was more like 60/40. Not a majority but 40% agreeing with the 9th was very interesting.

Interesting and more likely to be representative. I noticed that the "Quick Question" electronic "poll" has no disclaimer, as I've seen in other newspapers, saying that this is not a scientific poll of opinion.
Actually, all one can infer from the results of this is that most people reading the article on line, who disagree with the 9th's decision, took the time to enter their vote.
Numbers so high they approach 100% bring validity into question. No?

[ July 20, 2002: Message edited by: Oresta ]</p>

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CheeseheadHeathen Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 157	Poll today on the pledge issue Just in case anyone missed it: <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm" target="_blank">USA Today poll</a> [ July 19, 2002: Message edited by: CheeseheadHeathen ]</p>

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07-19-2002, 10:53 AM	#2
Oxidizing Material Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 2,069	Sad

07-19-2002, 10:58 AM	#3
Krieger Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: ... Posts: 2,191	Geeze, only 9.88% "yes" . . .

07-19-2002, 11:38 AM	#4
CheeseheadHeathen Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 157	Try voting a few times--you'll find that the "number of responses" goes up about 10-15 votes every three seconds (no exaggeration). A whole bunch of fundies are sitting their voting and voting and voting all day...as though it actually mattered what the outcome of this poll is.

07-19-2002, 11:48 AM	#5
crazyfingers Contributor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 13,699	Way back on the big day I recall that CNN had two basically identical polls. One was on the main page and showed results like this one. The other was on the business/financial page and was more like 60/40. Not a majority but 40% agreeing with the 9th was very interesting.

07-19-2002, 12:25 PM	#7
marylandnaturegirl Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington DC Metro Area Posts: 151	I have been spreading the word about this poll and article as well. If you would like to do so also please copy and paste the remainder of my email. Please pass this on to as many non-believers as you can. Also an interesting yet depressing article on DOJ and Ashcroft trying to keep pledge "as is". USA Today is taking a vote on whether the words "Under God" should be removed from the pledge of allegiance. You can vote by going to the following website. <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/27/pledge-hold.htm</a> don't get made...get writing to your elected officials...let them know your opinion on this AND that you VOTE! go to: <a href="http://capwiz.com/au/home/" target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/au/home/</a> Once there you can easily email your Reps get ideas and have media contact addresses too. At least email but the BEST is to send handwritten Fax or handwritten letter as the more effort a contact takes with elected official the higher tally mark it is given statistically by the staffers. For instance, a handwritten letter that was mailed takes the most effort and will be given the tally weight of for example 400-500 people that felt the same way but weren't willing to take the time to write. An email, since takes such little effort might only get the tally of 5 or 10 people that feel the same way for example. But at least do SOME method. Speak now or forever hold your peace. HELP! Also try to attend the Godless March on Washington DC <a href="http://www.godlessamercians.org" target="_blank">http://www.godlessamercians.org</a>

07-19-2002, 12:44 PM	#8
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Don't the IDIOTS who do these polls know how to log IP addresses? Dammit it's a line or two of code referencing ONE FREAKIN PROGRAM!!!!! grumbles

07-19-2002, 02:28 PM	#9
daemon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 737	While we might like to think that there are fundies wasting their time, it's probably one or two with automated scripts posting to it repeatedly. Yes is down to 9.78% now.

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