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BibleBelted · 03-27-2003, 11:56 AM

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From the article:

The Kevlar helmets are 25% to 40% more resistant to projectiles than their steel predecessors of equal weight, according to its manufacturer DuPont.

The light plastic-based material was developed in the mid-1960s and, under water, it is 20 times stronger than steel.

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??? huh??

How many firefights are ever held under water?

HaysooChreesto! · 03-27-2003, 12:11 PM

I think it's obvious that every time the Iraqi's have tried to engage US and British forces who the better marksmen are.
In a war, even the poor riflemen will get off a good shot now and then. I hardly think that the article is indicative of overall Iraqi marksmenship.
The idea of "if both sides had equal weaponry" is moot. It doesn't exist.

GodBlessAmerica · 03-27-2003, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by BibleBelted
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??? huh??

How many firefights are ever held under water?

D-Day comes to mind

Nickle · 03-27-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Oxymoron
Lucky? Yeah: one Iraqi bullet, three coalition ones

haha. I mean, hurumph. *stern look

John Hancock · 03-27-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Zadok001
What's more, that's terrible shooting! If the first bullet in the helmet doesn't put the guy down, aim for the FACE!

What? Like this soldier was standing still and waiting for another shot! Gad Zadoks. :banghead:

Martin Buber

emphryio · 03-27-2003, 01:56 PM

They probably meant when tested under water pressure because water gives a highly unifom pressure.

I could be wrong, but the US army has a lot of safety features concening guns which could result in the Iraqis having much more experience with guns.

Obviously the US special forces are an exception but they only make up a small fraction of the US troops.

BibleBelted · 03-28-2003, 08:05 AM

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GodBlessAmerica writes (in response to my question of how many firefights are ever held underwater):

D-Day comes to mind

I think you're mixing up The Longest Day with Thunderball, GBA.

GodBlessAmerica · 03-28-2003, 10:56 AM

Most of my Normandy invasion knownledge come from documentary videos and Saving Private Ryan (LOL). I dont read much, but I have a feeling that portion of the casualties the Allies had was in water.

BibleBelted · 03-28-2003, 12:11 PM

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GodBlessAmerica posted:
Most of my Normandy invasion knownledge come from documentary videos and Saving Private Ryan (LOL). I dont read much, but I have a feeling that portion of the casualties the Allies had was in water.

You would be correct in feeling that way. Thousands died before they ever reached Omaha Beach, where the worst fighting was. Sadly, many tank crews were drowned when they were dropped off their boats too early into 15 ft. deep water.

You might enjoy Andy Rooney's book My War. He landed in Normandy on D-Day + 1 (he wrote for Stars and Stripes).

The book is very interesting, moving, and educational without being ponderous.

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bagong · 03-28-2003, 01:14 PM

I think a more impressive achievement by Iraqi soldiers was taking out 2 near-indestructable 70 ton M1 Abrams tanks with pickup truck-mounted rocket launchers:

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle....toryID=2449046

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03-27-2003, 12:11 PM	#12
HaysooChreesto! Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 7,737	I think it's obvious that every time the Iraqi's have tried to engage US and British forces who the better marksmen are. In a war, even the poor riflemen will get off a good shot now and then. I hardly think that the article is indicative of overall Iraqi marksmenship. The idea of "if both sides had equal weaponry" is moot. It doesn't exist.

03-27-2003, 01:56 PM	#16
emphryio Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: WV Posts: 4,369	They probably meant when tested under water pressure because water gives a highly unifom pressure. I could be wrong, but the US army has a lot of safety features concening guns which could result in the Iraqis having much more experience with guns. Obviously the US special forces are an exception but they only make up a small fraction of the US troops.

03-28-2003, 10:56 AM	#18
GodBlessAmerica Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 41	Most of my Normandy invasion knownledge come from documentary videos and Saving Private Ryan (LOL). I dont read much, but I have a feeling that portion of the casualties the Allies had was in water.

03-28-2003, 01:14 PM	#20
bagong Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 85	I think a more impressive achievement by Iraqi soldiers was taking out 2 near-indestructable 70 ton M1 Abrams tanks with pickup truck-mounted rocket launchers: http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle....toryID=2449046

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