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Bialar Crais · 03-02-2002, 07:07 AM

When you thought Dr Crackpot had taken human stupidity to the outer limits, he posts a pile of steaming bovine faeces like <a href="http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=29" target="_blank">this</a> and helps that stupidity soar to new heights.
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jordan_tar · 03-02-2002, 07:27 AM

I especially love the part where he tries to establish that all the "founding fathers" of science were creationists. Well, yes - because practically all the branches of science began before evolution was discovered...

lpetrich · 03-02-2002, 08:16 AM

He clearly ignored all the pagan Greek and Roman scientists who came before, like Aristotle and Euclid and Ptolemy and so forth. Also, questioning the Bible could have landed one in deep doo-doo a few centuries ago -- look at what happened to Copernicus and Galileo. Copernicus was careful to state that heliocentrism was not much more than wild speculation, but that did not save him from the wrath of the theologians. And compared to Galileo, he was very cautious.

So shall we give ourselves some old-time religion and convert to Hellenic paganism?

ksagnostic · 03-02-2002, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Bialar Crais:
When you thought Dr Crackpot had taken human stupidity to the outer limits, he posts a pile of steaming bovine faeces like <a href="http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=29" target="_blank">this</a> and helps that stupidity soar to new heights.
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Looks like the same old same old bull ess to me. I think Hovind excretes it, reingests it, and then excretes it again.

tgamble · 03-02-2002, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Bialar Crais:
When you thought Dr Crackpot had taken human stupidity to the outer limits, he posts a pile of steaming bovine faeces like <a href="http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=29" target="_blank">this</a> and helps that stupidity soar to new heights.
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question to ponder. If speciation is impossible, how come each "kind" the cretinists talk about are made up of many species (and genus in some cases) and all these species supposedly evolved from an origonal kind. How is possible for an origonal kind to (gasp!) evolve into different species when speciation is impossible.

And oh yeah, how come the impossible has been oberved?

Hovind is the biggest shit for brains on the planet!

pseudobug · 03-02-2002, 12:56 PM

Check this chicken manure on Hovind's site:

<a href="http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=products&specific=joeqknd0" target="_blank">The Evolution Cruncher</a>

For the grand sum of $5.00 (US) you can get :

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by Vance Ferrell

Thousands of scientific facts, disproving every basic area of evolutionary theory. Fascinating and easy-to-read, this book is written so the key points quickly jump out at you.

Topically arranged with a full-sized index--easy to find what you need.

Full of hundreds of statements by prominent scientists who disprove evolutionary theory. They know evolution is a hoax!

This is a book you will keep for years as you explain different points to others. Facts are powerful!

928 pages.

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Pomp · 03-02-2002, 01:20 PM

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Facts are powerful!

Yet not powerful enough, apparently, to pierce Hovind's skull.

I liked this little gem, personally:

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Dirt + water + time = living creatures

Kevin Dorner · 03-02-2002, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by ksagnostic:
Looks like the same old same old bull ess to me. I think Hovind excretes it, reingests it, and then excretes it again.

Now that is "reintarnation."

Bialar Crais · 03-02-2002, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Pompous Bastard:
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Facts are powerful!
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Yet not powerful enough, apparently, to pierce Hovind's skull.

I liked this little gem, personally:

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Dirt + water + time = living creatures

I personnaly liked the insistance that modern evolution is totally based on Lamarcks ideas. How a theory that totally contradicts another theory can be based upon what it is contradicting...Whish Dr Crackpot could explain that.

Another gem is the way he insists that Pasteurs debunking of spontanous generation somehow debunks abiogenesis. Rather different thingies, no?

No wonder he couldn't even get Karl von Linn�'s name correct.

John Solum · 03-02-2002, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by pseudobug:
Check this chicken manure on Hovind's site:

<a href="http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=products&specific=joeqknd0" target="_blank">The Evolution Cruncher</a>

For the grand sum of $5.00 (US) you can get :

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I just bought a copy of this on eBay a couple of months ago. It seriously makes a great reference. If you want just about every creationist argument and misquotation ever made complied in one book, this is the one to get.

03-02-2002, 07:07 AM	#1
Bialar Crais Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lule�, Sweden. Posts: 354	Hovind's at it again... When you thought Dr Crackpot had taken human stupidity to the outer limits, he posts a pile of steaming bovine faeces like <a href="http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=29" target="_blank">this</a> and helps that stupidity soar to new heights. <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" /> <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" /> <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

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03-02-2002, 07:27 AM	#2
jordan_tar Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Denver/Tulsa Posts: 78	I especially love the part where he tries to establish that all the "founding fathers" of science were creationists. Well, yes - because practically all the branches of science began before evolution was discovered...

03-02-2002, 08:16 AM	#3
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	He clearly ignored all the pagan Greek and Roman scientists who came before, like Aristotle and Euclid and Ptolemy and so forth. Also, questioning the Bible could have landed one in deep doo-doo a few centuries ago -- look at what happened to Copernicus and Galileo. Copernicus was careful to state that heliocentrism was not much more than wild speculation, but that did not save him from the wrath of the theologians. And compared to Galileo, he was very cautious. So shall we give ourselves some old-time religion and convert to Hellenic paganism?

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