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Old 05-07-2003, 05:54 AM   #71
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Originally posted by Darth Dane
No, all of us is saved, and have always been saved.

All of who? Me too?
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Yes you too, I use this interpretation or things for me will not make sense:

"the kingdom of heaven is spread upon earth, but people do not see it"

We are in teh garden of eden, being in teh gardden of eden, we are without sin, cannot sin, and are always in God's mercy and Love.

If this should be interpreted another way, it doesn't make sense to me.

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Yes you too ...

Excellent! In the meantime, I'll be spending some quality time with my penis and anus. See you there!
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Excellent! In the meantime, I'll be spending some quality time with my penis and anus. See you there!

See you where? We are here already


Yes, as St. Augustine said: "Love (God) and do what you want"

Ramana Maharishi: "Be as you are"

Treat others nice, so they can enjoy themselves playing woth thier genitals, don't hit them because they don't wanna play with themselves or because they do want to do it.

or do as you like

Everything is allowed
Not everything is advisable




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Originally posted by Darth Dane
See you where? We are here already

What - we are in Heaven now? And when we're dead, then what?

Originally posted by Darth Dane
Treat others nice, so they can enjoy themselves playing woth thier genitals, don't hit them because they don't wanna play with themselves or because they do want to do it.

LOL! Very good advice, I'd say.

Originally posted by Darth Dane
Everything is allowed
Not everything is advisable


I can dig it.
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Old 05-07-2003, 06:32 AM   #76
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What - we are in Heaven now? And when we're dead, then what

You may not believe me, but...heaven

Re-incarnation?

We play ping pong with yin/yang. When we are in "heaven " we forget slowly our lives here, and then suddenly we eitehr die there to be reborn here, or we simply say"I wanna get re-born re-experience it all again"

Could it be?




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What - we are in Heaven now? And when we're dead, then what?

No matter what your belief system I'd imagine you believe, at the least, that you exist. Even if you cant entirely prove that anyone else does or prove to anyone else that you do. One thing is certain. You are conscious. Now, some may question or not whether there is an afterlife or not. Regardless of that, you're here now. At this moment.

How you see this existence is in your own hands. You can see it as Hell. You can see it as nothing. But you can also see it has Heaven. For, when you look around, you can see people seeming to live lavish Heavenly lives and those who seems their life is in Hell. But dont try and guess what they feel this life is to them. For I know for a fact that just because it seems like some are down in the dumps doesn't mean they are. And just because someone seems to be living lavishly doesn't mean they're enjoying it. Life is what you make of it and I've made it to what I feel is Heaven. But no matter what you make of it...it's your experience and yours alone. Have fun and live it...you're allowed to.

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We play ping pong with yin/yang.

I thought we decided we were done with that penis anus thing.
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Uhhh Darth, we are not in heaven now. Are you a preterist?
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There won't be any death or suffering Darth, this is a terrible thing to believe that this is heaven.

Since the bible seems to imply that all sorrow and suffering is done away with, I don't think we can be kicked out of heaven, I really don't see where we will have the will to rebel or do anything to cause us to get kicked out.
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