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Old 06-25-2002, 05:59 PM   #11
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The Argument From Miracles:

1. Here's a list of miraculous occurrences.
2. I can't see a scientific explanation for anything on this list.
3. Therefore, they didn't happen, and are not evidence for God.
Wow. "Foolish" has new meaning. Maybe he's the guy the Bible's talking about...."fool...heart...no god".

While unexplained phenomenon aren't solid evidence for the existence of God, the hope that there might be a naturalistic explaination for them isn't solid evidence that the phenomenon is natural either. I think there is a natural explanation for "miracles", but until more research goes into the said miracles I can't solidly say that they are definately not supernatural either.

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Categorizing an unexplained event as a miracle is blindening Medieval.
Most of the stuff we use today could not be explained 200 years ago and would therefore be categorized as miracles.
What can or cannot be explained is just a matter of timing and the current status of science and technology.
The latest farce with P.Pio is a blatant example of this. A doubtfull person dies, is canonized by a clergy dearly in need of miracles, and then it is just waiting for a miracle to occur.
And then, six months later, and this is a true miracle, a little boy recovers miracuously and his recovery cannot be explained by the doctors. Well maybe they should look better, or arrange for an independent peer review, or just accept this as statistic!! No, this is the miracle allowing for the deranged friar to become a saint.
Pathetic.
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Old 06-26-2002, 04:22 AM   #13
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Nick!

I could not agree more with you!! Well said.

Too, just as a little post script in critique of my 'brother's' in Christianity, I often thought that in much the same way that radio gives classic rock a bad name, 'religion' often times gives God a bad name as well.

Man's greatest sin is pride (aka ego)! It clouds the mind. Besides, I'm not sure whether as a whole, there exists a 'perfect' interpretation, aside from...

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