malookiemaloo

Well, I left myself open to that one!!

I suppose Bible translation is not an exact science. eg. when does translation drift into interpretation, keep the language simple without loosing the meaning etc.

There is not one definitive 'correct' translation but generally single person translations should only be referred to but not necessarily relied upon.

Personally. I am comfortable with the NIV but that's just me.


Alistair

HelenM

I've never heard a Christian complain about the KJV in that way before, Alistair.

Do you think King James was a Christian? I've heard lots of negative things about him. What didn't he like about it?

Anyway, that was off-topic...Caverdude, I know people can be really annoying at times . The thing to be careful about, in my opinion, and with all due respect, is that you don't end up more intolerant than the fundamentalist Christians with whom you're upset. (Unless you want to be an intolerant person ) I say that because I think I often fall into that - getting so upset with others' judgmental attitude that I end up being judgmental of them and doing exactly what I am upset with them over...

Actually this might be best in SL&S.

take care
Helen

malookiemaloo

Can't say whether King James was a Christian in anything other than a nominal sense. He was, however, protestant as opposed to Catholic.

He did not like the Authorised Version because it was too like the Geneva Bible but other then that I have no details.

You make a good point about intolerance.

To be honest , I am just like everybody else in this. I get annoyed at the argument that goes along the lines of 'religion causes so much harm in the world, I am not religious therefore I am better than religious people'. Well, that's me.


Alistair

HelenM

Well...then, with all due respect I suggest you go find a post where someone says that and object to it, then . (As long as it isn't on SL&S)

You'll probably find some. But if you read here for a while you'll see that many people here are objecting to religious beliefs and practices rather than religious people per se. And many people here are happy to agree that some religious people are decent and some are not and some nontheists are decent, some are not.

I still don't understand what you think is wrong with the KJV. It's too like the Geneva Bible. Ok, so, what was wrong with that?

Helen

malookiemaloo

Sorry. I was NOT objecting to people who think they are better because they are not religious. I was simply admitting that sometimes I get as angry as some dogmatic nutters in case you thought that I thought I was perfect-if you follow.

From memory, the Geneva Bible was strongly influenced by the reformers and while KJ was a protestant, I think it was a bit much for him.

Anyhow, I am going to my Church Bible study tonight and I'll ask the minister-he was the one who told me KJ never authorised it in the first place.

Anyhow, the KJ version was translated from documents dating from the 13th century. we now have documents much more recent-a hundred years old or so.


Alistair

HelenM

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atheist_in_foxhole

You'll love this article

HelenM

It's not in DSM-IV and I very much doubt it's going to be in DSM-V, despite what anyone here thinks or that article says.

And until it's in DSM-somenumber, then all speculations about fundamentalist religious belief being something a psychiatrist would diagnose as mental illness, are simply wrong.

Helen

Ronin

Welcome to the IIDB!

It starts to lose meaning at Gen 1:1...for your reference...LOL.

Relied upon...I couldn't have said it better myself, thanks!

Indeed...that is just you, afterall.

atheist_in_foxhole

Just wait a few decades, Helen. There will come a day, long after you and I are pushing up roses, when anyone who professes a belief in an invisible sky daddy will be thrown in an asylum.