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Old 07-03-2003, 06:15 AM   #1
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Default Some anti flood help anyone?

http://www.godspointofview.com/publi...ers/flood.html

A YEC brought that up in a debate , anyone care to pick some arguments apart?
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There’s no point. Only a crash course in scientific epistemology, geology, geophysics and biology can rectify so many egregious* errors. It’s not even bothering to set up a real straw man, it’s an appeal to ridicule without even saying why the science is ridiculous. Which, of course, it isn’t.

This site too sums up the creationist POV in a nutcase.

Bring your cretinist here, and we’ll tear into small strips any claim they themselves want to make. If he / she has an argument, let ’em present it themselves. One does not argue by using websites; one should use them to provide further evidence to back up assertions.

* note: I’ve been waiting for ages to be able to use that word!

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The deeper you go in the interior of the earth, the denser the material gets and the higher the temperatures rise, some think to as high as 2500 degrees Centigrade, squared!
Now that's hot! Or at least ridiculous.......
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Seeing as Kent Hovinds sitting on all that cash waiting for proof of evolution, perhaps he can help this author out

Rubbish about the Ark

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If I were given that kind of a loyal work force and abundance of material, that kind of experience, and that kind of horsepower (even if they did not have machines, which they may well have had) I could build you 10 or 20 such ships in 100 years, maybe more than that.
give him 5 years to build one using wood.

Edit: After reading it all I had to clean the monitor up, apparantly Noah drank seawater as the salt had been diluted so much it was drinkable. What a shame for all the saltwater fish then....
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"Loyal workforce"? I thought pre-flood people apart from Noah were all lazy sodomites. Wasn't the whole point of the flood to get rid of these slobs?
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The deeper you go in the interior of the earth, the denser the material gets and the higher the temperatures rise, some think to as high as 2500 degrees Centigrade, squared!

Now that's hot! Or at least ridiculous.......
Ha! Thanks Coragyps, I missed that!

Hmmm. 2500, squared. 2500 x 2500 = 6,250,000.

6.25 million degrees.

Well, a quick Google reveals that the surface of the sun is merely 5,500 degrees. Mind you, its core is hotter: about 15 million degrees.

So, the core of the earth is about half as hot as the core of the sun... a rather big fusion furnace. Well, I guess that’d explain the supersonic plate tectonics that flood proponents require!

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So that's why we're all...well...dead.
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Ha! Thanks Coragyps, I missed that!

Hmmm. 2500, squared. 2500 x 2500 = 6,250,000.

6.25 million degrees.

Well, a quick Google reveals that the surface of the sun is merely 5,500 degrees. Mind you, its core is hotter: about 15 million degrees.

So, the core of the earth is about half as hot as the core of the sun... a rather big fusion furnace. Well, I guess that’d explain the supersonic plate tectonics that flood proponents require!

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Actually it's 7,689,296ºC. Add the 273º before you multiply.
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I wonder if the numbskull author of that article would recognize his error if you emailed him and said you were really worried that any day now the heat wave will reach the earth's surface and turn us all to plasma? Somehow, I doubt it. He'd probably recommend prayer or something. At least he's amusing.

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Could Noah and his family have built the Ark in 98 years? Let us think about that for a moment. These were gigantic people,

Bloated as a sumo wrestler, that was Noah.

skilled in building houses and cities,

The Howard Roark of his day.

living in a world where weapons and tools were made of brass and iron.

And biodegradable plastic.

They had lived and developed experience for five long centuries. There were huge elephants, oxen, horses and other animals, apparently much gentler than today, to use as

food. They were so gentle that all you had to do was lay a gigantic cauldron on its side and they would walk right into it. The gentlest of them would even stop to skin and de-bone themselves beforehand!

beasts of burden and to pull windlasses for hoisting. There were multitudes of people around to hire for helpers if needed.

Noah paid them in jellybeans and cotton candy.

Possibly room was provided for fresh water storage, though that hardly seems necessary under the circumstances.

Mrs. Noah lactated a great deal, did she?

It only gets sillier from there, with animals turning pumps in the dark.
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