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Old 04-21-2002, 01:03 PM   #251
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Don't eat Booty's god with cheese, you ... you ... atheist!

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Quote:
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<strong>How much are your fears relieved by seeking the company of others that share your fears?</strong>
This might help you booty...

Pressupose:
Pronunciation: "prE-s&-'pOz
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French presupposer, from Medieval Latin praesupponere (perfect indicative praesupposui), from Latin prae- + Medieval Latin supponere to suppose --
Date: 15th century
1 : to suppose beforehand

This is can be found in every weak argument.

Your pressupositions to date are as follows:
God exists.
God loves.
We fear love.
We fear you.

I'm sure if i had the time to go back through the discussion i could find more. But these are the ones that stick out and invalidate everything you've said thus far.

Oh yeah, and another one... this one is particularly abused:

Questions answer questions
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Heh. Right now, Booty's looking through his How to Convert Atheists manual.

"I just don't understand," he's saying. "These questions worked on me. Why aren't they working on these online infidels?"

Poor guy. He's looking through the wrong manual. He's reading How to Convert Atheists (IQs 40-85), when really he should be looking at How to Convert Atheists (IQs 100+).



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*loves god with cheese*
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Booty, you mentioned you were invited here by someone we are close to "losing". This of course implies we "won" said person in the first place. Unlike theists we rarely try to forceably win converts.
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LadyShea,

Good point. Anybody who can be bullied into believing something wouldn't make a particularly good atheist, anyway.

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NPH...exactly. It's sort of like trying to teach a pig to speak...it rarely works and annoys the pig.

(I love that line but can't for the life of me remember what it's from)
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I don't know where it comes from either, but the version I heard goes like this:

Never try to teach a pig to sing, it will only frustrate you and annoy the pig.
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<strong>How much are your fears relieved by seeking the company of others that share your fears?</strong>
Have you stopped beating your wife, yes or no?

The question above is a sophist's trick. If one has never beat one's wife, no matter whether one answers yes or no, one is implicitly accepting the false premise. This sophistry slips in an unwarranted premise that can't be negated without objecting to the question itself.

Your questions about fears come across like a variation on this sophist's trick. They are not taken in a good spirit by people who are attentive to such mind games. They reek of sneakiness and sophistry.

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