Magus55

Congratulations on making the most pointless statement here - obviously you don't even know that purpose of circumcision...



How could it not be? Go jump in a Volcano and tell me if that would be fun for you to spend the rest of eternity...

lpetrich

Magus55:
Because you'll be Da vinci in Hell? You don't get to have fun or be creative in Hell - you burn, suffer, over and over for all eternity - ...

So those who claim that Hell is nothing but "separation from god" are just plain wrong?

... - we will be as diverse in Heaven as on Earth - you just can't commit sin, and there is no pain, suffering, death, hate, anguish.

Which is contrary to a common solution of the Problem of Evil -- that evil is necessary in order to produce some greater good. One wonders why god doesn't create Heaven and be done with it.

(Magus55 on the torments of hell...)

A being who would want to torment others like that is IMO not worth worshipping.

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by Magus55
Congratulations on making the most pointless statement here

Why, thank you. Such kind words from a Christian.

- obviously you don't even know that purpose of circumcision...

God really hates foreskins? You know, when I read the bible as a small child, I used to think foreskins were the part of the skin that covered the forehead. I could never understand why your god loathed that part of the face so much that he was almost going to kill Moses before Moses's wife cut their son.

How could it not be? Go jump in a Volcano and tell me if that would be fun for you to spend the rest of eternity...

As opposed to spending eternity with people like you?

Krakatoa, here I come!

lpetrich

(QueenofSwords on a deity obsessed with circumcision...)

Magus55:
Congratulations on making the most pointless statement here - obviously you don't even know that purpose of circumcision...

Whatever it was.

QoS:
If there are no deluded, self-righteous, intolerant fundamentalists there, how could it not be?

Magus55:
How could it not be? Go jump in a Volcano and tell me if that would be fun for you to spend the rest of eternity...

QoS is simply stating that she'd rather be in Hell than suffer the presence of self-righteous fundie jerks.

lpetrich

Magus55:
The Quran isn't as accurate or logical as the Bible - ...

Don't make me laugh. The Bible is full of inaccuracies and illogic.

it can claim all it wants - its a false book.

It's not much worse than the Bible in that regard.

And even if Islam were true - id rather be in Hell than in Heaven whoring out women and little boys for eternity -

What's so horrible about that?

And according to Islam, you will also get:

No extremes of climate
Lots of water and gardens
Milk that doesn't spoil
Wine that doesn't intoxicate -- you won't get drunk or get hangovers
Nice couches to recline on

at least if Islam is true - ill be with Jesus in Hell...

Actually, according to Islam, Jesus Christ was one of Mohammed's predecessor prophets, but his message got corrupted.

Also, in the Islamic hell, you will be chained in place, you will have boiling water poured down your throat, and you will be burned with fire 7 times hotter than normal fire -- as hot as the surface of the Sun!

And your skin will grow back as it gets burned away.

So your argument, O Magus55, can easily be turned in favor of Islam.

The Quran has been found in error in many many reguards,

Like...

as well as the obvious contradictions to a perfect righteous being valuing beating women and sex above all else ...

The Bible isn't that great about the female sex either.

Let me ask you this - supposed all us Christians turn out to be right - what do you plan on telling God before he lets you go to the place i just described to you? Do you honestly think Hell will be enjoyable?

Yes, because it would be better than being around self-righteous fundie assholes.

miss djax

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Magus55

The Quran has been found in error in many many reguards, as well as the obvious contradictions to a perfect righteous being valuing beating women and sex above all else - yes what a true religion...

so clearly the bible is real concerned about the roles and rights of women then?

you take issue with the quaran's 'ok to beat women' slant *which you haven't quoted*, but have no issue with what the bible says about women : the source of all sin, shouldn't speak in church, etc etc....

no mention of the ot offering virgins as the spoils of war, offering of daughters to mobs of men *rape in exchange for 'peace'*.....

i could go on.........

christ-on-a-stick

I find it almost unbearably sad that people still live their whole lives believing this crap.

Then it makes me angry that in this day and age, most people still don't consider it sick - I mean really, deranged to believe in such horrific fairytales for which there is absolutely no evidence , merely ancient myths.

Amos

Please don't look at me to find one.

Magus55

Circumcision served the same purpose as water Baptism does today - its a sign of washing ( cutting) away ones sins.

Whats wrong with people like me? Just because i don't want you fall into Satan's lies and would rather you be in Heaven and enjoy Jesus' love? Yes i am evil aren't I...

Evil isn't necessary to produce good - God is the creator of good - no good comes but from him. But since humans are sinful and follow evil ways - he can use that evil to turn it into good.

Heaven is already created - Where do you think God resides? He's waiting till the very last possible minute for people to accept his gift - there are still alot of people on earth that will be saved.

Tormenting you is the last thing God wants - if he really enjoyed tormenting humans - you'd already be in Hell and he would have never sacrifice his son to save you from that torment.

No Hell is the separation of God. But God created your soul, without him - your soul dies - but since souls are eternal it continually dies over and over - hence torment. Hell is eternal, never ending death.


Care to show me an example from the Bible? And you just saying "because God created a 15 billion year old universe in 6 days" doesn't count.

Shrug, no human on Earth has ever been able to disprove it - more than i can say for the Qur'an.

Not even gonna comment on that - if you actually believe thats righteous and good - you have more issues than disbelief.


http://www.carm.org/islam/Koran_contradictions.htm

God doesn't treat women like that - other humans do - kinda like how you think its cool for women to be sex slaves.

How am i self-righteous? I deserve Hell just as much as you - i don't consider myself better than you.

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)," (4:34). (from the Qur'an).

Care to show me scripture from the Bible?

And i find just as sad that atheists are living in such denial and lies. And since you haven't looked for all the evidence, you can't claim there is none.

At least in a world this sick, Christians have something to look forward to - where is your aspiration? You hear of murders, rapes, slaughtering of babies, genocide, hate, war, disease, famine, disaster on a daily basis and yet the only peace you retain from all the horror is that in a few decades you cease to exist.

atheist_in_foxhole

We atheists don't need ridiculous fairy tales like you do. We face reality and attempt to make this a better world through science, not religious superstition. The fact that you depend on childish fantasies is really quite sad IMO.

I'd say that he's a sick, twisted, sadistic monster. Then I'd moon him.