Spaz

Hahahahahaha. Is this a joke?

CX

So far there has been no substantial discussion of biblical criticism or history. If this trend doesn't reverse I fear this thread will have to be closed.

CX - B,C&H Moderator

ex-xian

Maybe if you waited until Jorge responds again something substantial will begin.

Marduk

OK let’s get to the point, which errors do you think don’t exist, why not start with one that has already been beaten to death ‘The Exodus’ real historical event or metaphorical ‘escape from bondage’ like our pal Amos or Harrington thinks? Is this the sort of thing we are supposed to discuss? Or will all things that sound like historical or scientific errors suddenly become metaphorical and vice versa?
I’ve never been one to think that a religious/moral/spiritual type text even need to be historically or scientifically accurate anyway but I still like to play along.

viscousmemories

Hmm... I think I took a wrong turn. Biblical Criticism and History?

Oh well...

I think such a list would make a generous contribution to the Secular Web library, Jorge. Perhaps the boon to your faith that you have received from it might work to convert some of the proud heathens here.

vm

Jorge

Originally posted by Rhaedas

Going to go past the possible valid warning of trolldom:

Rest assured, no troll here.

So what's the point of the bible then, if it is not a message to the more inferior creation of god? Why deliver a message, but make it unknowable?

Many reasons, some we know, some we don't.

Your statement that the message is "unknowable" is completely wrong. See, that is an example of the kind of stuff that I was alluding to - blatant ignorance!

It's been said by many that reading the bible was the biggest influence in steering them away from christianity/theism. Seems an ineffective tool for passing along a message. Does god only want certain types of people, those who can "see through" the garbage, to follow him?

God created the perfect vehicle for (one of) His purposes. Those that are steered away from Him because His word "offends" them is some way were never His to begin with. His word served only to separate the wheat from the chaff and it did this with perfectly effective results. Hence, it is clear once again that you don't know what you are talking about. To wit: in your ending comment of "... wanting only those that can see through the garbage...", you classify yourself without even realizing it, Rhaedas. A perfect tool, indeed!

Jorge

viscousmemories

ex-xian

Jorge, Jorge, Jorge, Jorge....:banghead:

You're going to get this thread closed. Could make at least one point that is appropriate to BC & H, instead of just bashing people. By the way, you need to repent of lying. As viscousmemories pointed out, you're pretty fond of ad hominem.

Jorge

Originally posted by Cretinist

Oh looky, another "Fundamentalist, YEC, Born-Again Christian" come here to waste our time trying to defend the indefensible. And arrogant as hell to boot. How lovely.

Our local experts here, like CX, generally don't waste too much time discussing inerrancy with the likes of you, Jorge. Frankly, it isn't worth their time to discuss such nonsense. The errors and contradictions are obviously there, such as in the case of Genesis being demonstrably false regarding the origins of man, and say, in the case of the contradictions between the genealogies of Matthew and Luke.

Please, don't waste the time of the best and brightest in BC&H on your pathetic drivel. They have much more interesting things to discuss than the fanciful "what-if" scenarios inerrantists attempt to use to reconcile contradictions and errors.

Lessee... I've been studying this subject for many years and have studied the works of scores of people that have devoted major portions of their lives to studying this subject as well.

We have all come to the conclusion that there is a great deal to this matter and that the allegations of 'contradictions and errors' in the Bible aren't worth a plugged nickle.

Then along comes Cretinist and tells us that we've all been completely wrong and to not "waste any time of the best and brightest" here at an Infidel site.

Hmmm... Cretinist versus everyone else... Cretinist versus everyone else... oh boy, tough decision!

Does the term, "not even close' suggest anything, Cretinist?

Jorge

Mageth

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