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Old 08-15-2003, 11:40 AM   #1
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Cool Peace of mind and contentment, impossible

I am going on the assumption that all minds function the same, I have tried to figure how I could reach a desireble peace of mind, I concluded that for me to be contentfully at peace with myself, I would have to be Bill Gates, in a coma, or dead,..there are too many variables which cause worry and aprehension for me to have a desireble peace of mind, that goes for you too,unless your Bill Gates, or a real selfish prick,...
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...unless your Bill Gates, or a real selfish prick,
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Cojana,

My simplistic philosophy for peace of mind: go with the flow....
things seem to work themselves out.
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Comparison is the death of happiness.
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Old 08-15-2003, 03:39 PM   #5
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I am going on the assumption that all minds function the same, I have tried to figure how I could reach a desireble peace of mind, I concluded that for me to be contentfully at peace with myself, I would have to be Bill Gates, in a coma, or dead,..there are too many variables which cause worry and aprehension for me to have a desireble peace of mind, that goes for you too,unless your Bill Gates, or a real selfish prick,...
If you want to be happy, I strongly recommend following the advice of Epicurus:

www.atomic-swerve.net/tpg

www.epicurus.net

Take a look at what he has to say, and think about it at least (though thinking about it is not how one becomes happy).
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Old 08-16-2003, 07:17 AM   #6
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Cool Thanks for the links

Member phyros, thank you very much for the epicuris link, its a lot of read, I doubt that someone else's phylosophy will change mine,but I will certainly try thier minds, I'll be back.!!
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Default 1) Focus on solution, not on emotion

Cojana,

When you encounter a problem try not to get emotional about how bad this problem is or why it happened to you. Try to think how to fix it best. Imagine that all your problems are not the result of conspiracy against you, or bad luck or gods' punishment . Try to solve them like you did with your math problems at school. If you weren't good in math - doesn't matter. The important thing is - the way of solving your problems. It has to be logical, rational and it has to make sense. I'm not saying stop being emotional, but try to focus on the solution of the problem, not on how bad the problem is.

When you master this approach - you will get a peace of mind. You can't prepare yourself for all problems 100%, but you will be better prepared mentally to solve them. It will give you confidence in yourself. And self-confidence is the most important thing. When you will get experience in solving problems rationally - you will get self respect and respect from others.

Another thing is - other 6 000 000 000 people have problems too. When you realize that most of the world's population lives much worse than people in developed countries - it will make you appreciate your life much more.

I lived in Soviet Union, served in Soviet Army. I can compare my life in Canada to my 18 months in Soviet Army. I can tell you that people in North America, Western Europe and very few other places in the world are extremely lucky.

What helps me to appreciate my living, when I have some problems, is the thought that every day more than 32 000 children in the world die from hunger and hunger related diseases.

(The kids in North America are the fattest in the world. It's not kids' fault. It's their parents'.

Serious question: whose parents have more problems - fat kids' or dying from hunger kids'?

Funny question (for developed countries): how to get enough money for living and how to lose weight?)

So,

1) Focus on solution, not on emotion.
2) My problems are not unique; everybody else has their problems too.
3) Other people problems are much worse, just because they live in less fortunate countries.
4) How happy I am to live in developed country!
5) I'll try to solve this problem, like a math problem, the best I can.
6) Try to imagine that you are on national TV and you have to pass the test (to solve you problems). Believe me, you'll try your best and you'll show your best qualities. You, probably, even surpass your expectations!
7) Repeat to yourself: I'm confident, I'm smart, I'm strong - I can do it.

Good luck!
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i have little in the way of consciousness, depending on your definition ofcourse. i can feel emotions, and i am remarkably adept at knowing what other people feel at any given time even in the absence of any real clues. yet i feel no empathy, and i feel no guilt for my actions. this is good, it enables me to live a life relatively free of moral problems and allows me to do or not do things that others could not. So at least in the practical sense i have peace of mind.

If only my own emotions were so easily controllable, alas, they are not. but that's part of what makes life fun and interesting! peace of mind is for those allready dead!

with peace of mind, what could drive a man? what could bring great satisfaction?
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Member phyros, thank you very much for the epicuris link, its a lot of read, I doubt that someone else's phylosophy will change mine,but I will certainly try thier minds, I'll be back.!!
You are welcome. Epicurus gave very practical advice for how to live one's life, free from worry and as peaceful and tranquil as possible. You might, if you have a more religious bent to you, enjoy the writings of some of the Stoic philosophers, like Epictetus.

Many of the problems that people have are brought on themselves, by making poor choices that could be avoided (obviously, this does not apply to all problems of all people, or all problems of anyone, but for some, it is the vast majority of their problems). If you think carefully about what you really need out of life, and if you think carefully about the consequences of the choices that you make, you can probably avoid most of life's pitfalls.

One more thing: Having the wealth of Bill Gates does not mean one will have a contented and peaceful life. Peace of mind comes from within, not from having expensive trinkets.
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Cool I will reiterate,..

Membership, I opologise for my poor articulation, it seems that you all think I'm trying to solve some bad occurrence, I'm not, I was just thinking what a pleasent day it was, felt free and happy,then out of nowhere the news about New York caught my attention , I have a daughter there, then worry about the people I have here creeped up, then I thought the only way for me to have peace of mind,was Bill Gates,in a coma,or Dead, my brief came from hypotechnical frame of mind,.. real care and Love are the same in everyone, thus my stance on peace of mind, I'm not seeking knowledge per say, just thought it would be of interest,my subject,...sorry.!!
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