Albion

Are there any resources out there debunking this altest creationist stuff about the age of the universe? You know, the stuff about the universe starting from a white hole and the earth being in an event horizon just long enough for the rest of the universe to age enough to explain its apparent 15-billion-year age even though it's all just six thousand years old. I think this is some sort of perversion of gravitational time dilation, but I don't see any responses to it yet at TO.

Camaban

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Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ

Going onto that side of the event horizon is a one way trip to oblivion. Tidal forces rip things to pieces, pieces to atoms, and stretch atoms to lines.
Talk aboot bullshit.

ps418

Albion,

Search the message-board threads in S&S and E/C for 'white hole cosmology'. I remember one thread that had plenty of links to rebuttals by Hugh Ross and others. The thread was active sometime in 2002, but I dont remember when.

Albion

Thanks - will do! I've read some of the reviews of Starlight and Time at Amazon, and as I thought, this stuff looks good to untrained people but doesn't stand up if you know enough maths and physics. It really annoys me when creationists who don't know the difference between a species and a phylum will say things like "while I see flaws in the c-decay theory, the white-hole theory seems to me to be sound" and you know they don't begin to have the background needed to say anything of the sort, they're just pulling it straight off a creationist website.

ps418

Here's Hugh Ross on white hole cosmology:

<a href="http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/trap.shtml?main" target="_blank">AVOIDING A DANGEROUS TRAP </a>

<a href="http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/unravelling.shtml?main" target="_blank">The Unraveling of Starlight and Time </a>