Troma

Hi all,

I ran into a certain situation earlier this week at work and was looking for some advice. This guy I work with brought a book to work called 'The terrorist's within' or something like that.

I read some of the book and this is what I found; The Jesuits (yes, they are the priest guys) are responsible for Kennedy's assassination, the sinking of the Titanic, the trade centers tragedy, World War 1, etc etc etc, basically they are responsible for pretty much every bad thing that has ever happened in society in the last several hundred years or so.

Yeah, tell me about it, I was as surprised as you are right now.

Now, I like to to try be open minded about things, but there are some things that are so incredible, stupendously retarded that they don't deserve any special consideration whatsoever. The idea that the Jesuit priest's are infact a super secretive ultra powerful organization bent on destroying American liberty and restoring the world to a theocracy, is an idea that belongs in a Marvel or DC comic book!

Now my problem is is that I feel compelled to tell this guy that his book is absurd. I really want to show him the mined quotes and other nonsense in it. But when I think about it I realize that it's really not my job to tell people these things... But wait, how far should such an attitude go though? Should I sit idle while holocaust deniars spread their lies to people I might know? Should I not tell a friend that the "Eat all you want and lose 100 pounds in 3 days tablets" are probably not worth the 50 bucks?

If something makes someone happy (which alot of these things do, including the conspiracy theories), does that mean it shouldn't be messed with? Is a persons happiness worth their being hoodwinked by charlatans or hatemongers into believing silly and sometimes hateful ideas? Is a persons happiness worth their being succered out of 50 bucks on magical pills?

Where do you draw the line? And one last thing, what's the difference between a charlatan and a common thief?

fando

The least you can do is tell him that you think it's absurd. Say it with confidence, say it with pride, say it with a hint of wry intelligence. This fellow and anyone around him needs to experience firsthand that simply bandying about all these novel conspiracy theories won't win converts. People believe things too easily, and sometimes they need to be reminded that having a mind too open will cause their brains to fall out.

cricket

Don't even speak to these people.

The Admiral

Ahh, but there could be at least a grain of substance there.

The Admiral

Marduk

You can find such stuff claiming the same for a wide variety of groups. Usually it's the Masons that get to control the world or the "Illuminati' or the Knights Templar.
www.davidicke.com
Show him the book "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley. That should give him something new to fret over.

butswana

Usually, when I run into some one who spits out some really crazy shit like this I go along with them. Just trump it up and get them going. Gradually become more outrageous and hopefully they will eventually catch on. If not, you will always have a guy at work to make fun of.

Ernest Sparks

I searched for 'terrorists within', but failed to find a book title.
Is the actual book title this one? -->

Bill Hughes,The Secret Terrorists

This one is obviously Seventh-Day Adventist conspiracy-think.

The SJ (Society of Jesus) has long been a favorite target, even within the Catholic Church itself(!) For a while in its history the society was banned by the Pope himself, and many countries booted the SJs out. The society rose to great fame during the Catholic Counter-Reformation in the late 16th and early 17th centuries. The jesuits are smart, well-educated and obedient. Their line of authority went up through their own Provincial Fathers to a Father General in Rome, and finally to the Holy Father Pope, thereby regularly bypassing control by the ordinary bishops and prelacy of the Catholic Church. Perhaps the organization has been reformed more recently.

Catholic Encyclopedia:The Society of Jesus

Troma

Yep, that's the one Ernest. Crazy book...

Wyz_sub10

Nothing really scientific here, so off to Miscellaneous it goes!

Another

Why tell him that the book is absurd ? Have fun. Tell him that it's real and that you are a former Jesuit agent and that you are on the run because they are now "after you".

Play it up. Tell him that now that you've confided in him, he is in danger too. That blue car behind him is following him. There are microphones in his desk. pornography has been found on his computer at work and his boss and wife know.

There is a drug in the office coffee. People on television are watching him through the screen and the cast of friends think he is tubby.

This is an opportunity.