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cydonia · 04-24-2002, 05:53 PM

What about the republicans who supported John McCain, during his campaign he singled out Robertson and Falwell and compared them to other hate-mongers (which they are). There IS a diversity of thought. But to be honest the more i see CERTAIN republicans claim that the founding fathers were Christians, etc. I get a little miffed. That's basically the side of the party that makes me not want to call myself republican anymore.

BTW, i don't really care who cheats on their wife.

Toto · 04-24-2002, 09:12 PM

You notice McCain lost. He doesn't control the party machinery.

A lot of people complained about the choices for president in the last election. I figure that is what you get when the main qualification for being nominated was "can't prove he cheated on his wife like Clinton."

Daydreamer · 04-25-2002, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cydonia:
... John McCain ...

To be quite honest, although I may disagree with a number of his policies, I like McCain himself for the guts he has to follow his own path. It will be intresting to see if and how he plays a role in the 2004 election, because of the speculation about how such centrism will atract swing voters.

Godless Dave · 04-25-2002, 08:35 AM

To Pat Robertson:

BRING IT ON.

I'd prefer a good fight to all this sneaking around.

(With apologies to Han Solo)

Daydreamer · 04-28-2002, 03:52 PM

Team Celebrity Death Match:

Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell vs. Richard Dawkins and the late Isaac Asimov, tonight at 10.

BE THERE!

DarkBronzePlant · 04-29-2002, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by cydonia:
Alright, i voted for Bush. I like Bush. I know he's a bible thumper, but he supports policies i support. Not all, but many. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Interesting, apt metaphor you chose there...

cydonia · 04-29-2002, 06:51 PM

I'm sure whatever it was, you took it the wrong way.

DarkBronzePlant · 04-30-2002, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cydonia:
I'm sure whatever it was, you took it the wrong way.

Well, given who is the baby in that metaphor... oh wait, you probably weren't making a comment about W's intelligence...

BibleBelted · 04-30-2002, 07:05 AM

I just had an uncomfortable encounter with a fundy friend who happens to be an admirer of Pat Robertson. Maybe "admirer" is too strong a word, but she seems convinced that Pat's worldview is essentially correct.
It is depressing to me that this normally sweet-natured person could parrot his religious bigotry and I told her so, as I felt this made her a bigot also, by default.
Surprisingly enough, my concern for her public image was not warmly received and I'm wondering if we will ever get past this.
I guess Pat's "aw shucks" demeanor and goofy non-stop smiling can make the most vile statements sound reasonable and even loving. To some, anyway.

cydonia · 04-30-2002, 07:27 PM

I think after the sick stuff he said along with Falwell about 9-11 he has lost most of his "relevance" (not like he was relevant anyway, mind you). I think many republicans are now kind of afraid to support these guys. I hope the trend continues. There's no place for them.

I think bible thumpers and or pro lifers (and pro-choicers) who are single issue people really do a disservice to the rest of the U.S. For whatever reason the fundies and the right tend to go hand in hand. It sucks, but hopefully the old ways are fading.

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04-24-2002, 05:53 PM	#21
cydonia Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: southern california Posts: 1,002	What about the republicans who supported John McCain, during his campaign he singled out Robertson and Falwell and compared them to other hate-mongers (which they are). There IS a diversity of thought. But to be honest the more i see CERTAIN republicans claim that the founding fathers were Christians, etc. I get a little miffed. That's basically the side of the party that makes me not want to call myself republican anymore. BTW, i don't really care who cheats on their wife.

04-24-2002, 09:12 PM	#22
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	You notice McCain lost. He doesn't control the party machinery. A lot of people complained about the choices for president in the last election. I figure that is what you get when the main qualification for being nominated was "can't prove he cheated on his wife like Clinton."

04-25-2002, 08:35 AM	#24
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	To Pat Robertson: BRING IT ON. I'd prefer a good fight to all this sneaking around. (With apologies to Han Solo)

04-28-2002, 03:52 PM	#25
Daydreamer Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 221	Team Celebrity Death Match: Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell vs. Richard Dawkins and the late Isaac Asimov, tonight at 10. BE THERE!

04-29-2002, 06:51 PM	#27
cydonia Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: southern california Posts: 1,002	I'm sure whatever it was, you took it the wrong way.

04-30-2002, 07:05 AM	#29
BibleBelted Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oklahoma, USA Posts: 891	I just had an uncomfortable encounter with a fundy friend who happens to be an admirer of Pat Robertson. Maybe "admirer" is too strong a word, but she seems convinced that Pat's worldview is essentially correct. It is depressing to me that this normally sweet-natured person could parrot his religious bigotry and I told her so, as I felt this made her a bigot also, by default. Surprisingly enough, my concern for her public image was not warmly received and I'm wondering if we will ever get past this. I guess Pat's "aw shucks" demeanor and goofy non-stop smiling can make the most vile statements sound reasonable and even loving. To some, anyway.

04-30-2002, 07:27 PM	#30
cydonia Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: southern california Posts: 1,002	I think after the sick stuff he said along with Falwell about 9-11 he has lost most of his "relevance" (not like he was relevant anyway, mind you). I think many republicans are now kind of afraid to support these guys. I hope the trend continues. There's no place for them. I think bible thumpers and or pro lifers (and pro-choicers) who are single issue people really do a disservice to the rest of the U.S. For whatever reason the fundies and the right tend to go hand in hand. It sucks, but hopefully the old ways are fading.

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