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Old 05-08-2003, 10:26 AM   #1
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Two Romanian astronomers say their research shows Christ died at 3pm on a Friday, and rose again at 4am on a Sunday.
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They were convinced the date of the crucifixion was 33 AD, and not 30 AD, because records showed a solar eclipse, as depicted in the Bible at the time of Jesus' crucifixion, occurred in Jerusalem that year.
But they failed to mention that the total eclipse that occured in 33 was on Thursday, March 19th, a few weeks earlier than their calculation for the crucifixion, and also that the total eclipse was only visible as such in the Southern hemisphere. The only other eclipse in 33 was on September 12, and it was annular, not total.

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A solar eclipse at the time of a full moon? How does that happen?
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A solar eclipse at the time of a full moon? How does that happen?
Actually that's not what the article says.

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They said the New Testament stated that Jesus died the day after the first night with a full moon, after the vernal equinox.
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They were convinced the date of the crucifixion was 33 AD, and not 30 AD, because records showed a solar eclipse, as depicted in the Bible at the time of Jesus' crucifixion, occurred in Jerusalem that year.
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Still it's all bull pucky. But you are right, a new moon is required to have a solar eclipse.
 
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Actually that's not what the article says.
It's not what it says, but it implies it. The only reason the eclipse was mentioned in the article was because in the New Testament, the sun was darkened right before Jesus died.

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44 It was now about the sixth hour, and darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour,
45 for the sun stopped shining. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two.
46 Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.

Because Jesus was supposed to have been crucified right around the time of Passover, which occurs at full moon (the Jewish calendar being lunar), then the supposed eclipse that the authors tried to use to date the crucifixion would have had to occur right around the time of a full moon.
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It's not what it says, but it implies it. The only reason the eclipse was mentioned in the article was because in the New Testament, the sun was darkened right before Jesus died.

Because Jesus was supposed to have been crucified right around the time of Passover, which occurs at full moon (the Jewish calendar being lunar), then the supposed eclipse that the authors tried to use to date the crucifixion would have had to occur right around the time of a full moon.
I think HeatherD may have thought that I meant precisely at the full moon. I didn't.

If I got that wrong HD, I apologize.
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I think HeatheD may have thought that I meant precisely at the full moon. I didn't.

If I got that wrong HD, I apologize.
No, I didn't even consider that. I did miss one important part of the article:

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a solar eclipse, as depicted in the Bible at the time of Jesus' crucifixion
So yes, the article doesn't just imply, it states that Jesus did die near the time of a full moon and there was an eclipse that day. That cannot be in the real world.

Anyway, it bothers me when astronomers try to fit their religion into science and make events in the natural world fit with the confused world of the bible.

It's a big book of myths, get over it. There was an eclipse on the same day as a full moon because god moved the moon in place. It's a fairy tale, anything can happen.
 
 

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