Magus55

How would that far more effectively have destroyed all life? Ever hear of that volcano in Mexico? It went from flat ground, to a 500 foot mountain in one week - it was 1200 feet in a year. Its been like 50 or 60 years since that volcano started. Plenty of time for it to reach the heights of Everest without destroying all humanity. The plate tectonics are extremely active right now - with new land being created from volcano eruptions and and the shifting of the plates. Im sure its quite possible for the ocean floor to sink and mountains to rise over time without destroying the world.

pz

We aren't talking about one mountain: we're talking about all mountains, and all the depths of the ocean. We're talking about massive restructuring of the entire earth's surface within a relatively short period of time.

Hey, and do you think there are any sedimentary rocks containing fossil clams sitting at the top of that Mexican mountain?

I'm no geologist, but even I can see that you are compounding absurdities here to rescue a ridiculous hypothesis.

Coragyps

And so it has been shown, over and over. But the operative phrase in your sentence is "over time." Not a year, not a millenium, not a single million of years, but "over time." If you heat the mantle enough to make it so thin that plate tectonics operates at meter-per-month velocities, how hot do you think the surface will be? If the midocean ridges were erupting basalt 1000 times as fast as they are, what do you think would happen to the temperature and chemical composition of the seawater?
One volcano in Mexico isn't even a pimple on the Earth's heinie compared to what you're trying to sell here - let's start with a 38,000 mile chain of Paricutins, one every mile, to keep Noah company. Magus, believe whatever you will, but look at facts at least occasionally.

Kevbo

Exactly... like Hawaii, which has been several million years in the making, leaving a complete record of the Pacific plate's motion over a "hot spot" in the crust.

Daggah

Magus, you really don't understand how science works.

Science is dependent on man, which is fallible, true. But the Bible was also written by fallible men. And unlike the Bible, science provides us with a methodology for determining when it's wrong. Yes, scientists have been wrong. And who is responsible for discovering when a theory is wrong? Other scientists.

When science is shown to be wrong, it corrects itself and moves on.

When the Bible is [blatantly, as in this case] shown to be wrong, we end up with people like you who prefer to shove your head in the metaphorical sand and ignore it, or attempt to come up with ad hoc rationalizations that everyone not blinded by dogma sees as being ridiculous.

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by Magus55
I don't give a crap what scientists say ...

What are you doing in this thread then? Quite a few of these people are scientists. If you're preaching, I would imagine Noah's Flood is just about the last thing that would convince these folks.

Magus55

And let me ask you this - what would be affected by the complete alteration of the Earth's topography if such a catastrophic event took place? The flood already wiped out the world - so why couldn't the topography have been completely altered?

Magus55

The difference being, God wrote the Bible, through the hand of man. And no the Bible isn't wrong - iv'e seen nothing on this site the proves the Bible is wrong, other than just poor or misunderstood interpretations on your part.

Coragyps

1) because there was no worldwide flood - at least not one that left any traces
2) the topography could have been completely altered during a one-year flood, or heck, during the days of Peleg, for all I care. But such rapid alteration would have
a) left a trace or two of its own
b) boiled the oceans, lakes, Noah, and Peleg
c) not allowed for the geologic record that we see to have formed

This was figured out by Christian geologists before 1830 - they didn't have 2% of the data we do now, and it was already obvious to them that there was no Noachian Flood, and that the Earth was old. Really old. You need to catch up.

Daggah

You don't know that God wrote the Bible. You only believe it...and why? Because fallible humans told you so. Because your own experiences seem to (key words there) confirm it. But you're not infallible either. Human experience is often wrong.

And it's pure ignorance - willful, at this point - to say that the Bible isn't wrong. There was no global flood. Period. The earth is not 6,000 years old. Period. Etc., etc.