ComestibleVenom

Make sure she does only the good drugs like methamphetamine, morphine and PCP. As long as she doesn't smoke pot or drink beer, she should be fine.

Anachronix

You're not helping.



Back to the topic. From the information given, it's very hard to deduce any sort of motivation for your sister's actions. That being said, it definitely sounds like she's mixed up and doesn't know which way to go. It seems that some time away from the stresses of her 'regular' life would give her the best chance to think things over in a more objective way.

brighid

I am going to agree with Lady Shea. I don't think these people got the ideas about your sisters life all on their own. They sound like concerned parents who really think your sister is being abused ... probably because she or the son told them so. I would also say your parents wicked overreaction when she tried to leave probably reinforced their idea that she isn't living in a healthy environment. I would have to agree with them.

I would also agree that this has little, or nothing to do with religion but that your sister is rebelling against the overbearing control your parents have her under. She probably wants to think and act without coercion and without manipulation. Add the hormonal roller coaster she is on right now ... and I would say she is just horny and angst ridden like many teenagers her age. If she is dating multiple boys and had one nearly naked boy discovered in her bedroom closet I would say she is covertly experimenting with sex. It really doesn't sound like she is heavily into drugs. Both my brother and sister were heavily into drugs ranging from pot, to meth, to coke, to heroine and everything in between and her behavior doesn't really seem like drug induced behavior ... it sounds like pure rebellion.

It sounds like she planned on running away and just couldn't handle waiting until her 18th birthday to get out from under the clutches of the CoC Church and your parents.

I would also caution against measuring your level of teenage angst and rebellion against hers to determine what is normal, or appropriate. You are two different people.

I would also suggest talking to YOUR sister and not all her friends, etc. to discover what she is actually thinking or feeling. Personally, that is a huge pet peeve of mine and really pisses me off when friends and family do that. Talk to your sister!

Brighid

Curtis

I'll chime in and agree - talk with your sister.

melinie007

I seriously seriously doubt she was drugged. That is a pretty way out conclusion. If they were trying to kidnap her/steal a wife etc. WHY would they call the police out?

Calling out the authorities is something you do if you think you are in the right - If you had drugged somebody would you call the cops?

MY Take:

1. Your sister has difficulties living at home. Her life isn't as sunny as people think. SHe has a diary/poem book, where, like a lot of teens she writes her darker thoughts. Your parents read this. She failed some classes. Things aren't great.

2. Your sister was fooling around with this guy. Your father caught her, and made her listen to drone about how naughty she was as he drives to her grandparents.

3. This was probably some sought of final straw. She thought to herself 'fuck this, I am getting away from my parents!' She is allowed to 'date' apparently - but not have guys in their underwear. Maybe that's not enough for her.

4. She runs away to Joe's, taking her ID with her because she has decided she is 'never going back' (Why wouldn't you take the ID? As long as your parents have it she could be manipulated back into their dominion - she is angry and coming up with plans to do it by herself)

5. She tells a sob story to Joe's parents about how awful her home situation is (worked up over the lecture her dad gave her) and they conclude she is messed up and they should let her stay.

6. Your father, who they think is abusive, shows up and tries to take her back. They think he is abusive, that they are in the right - so call the cops.

7. RE the whole screaming car scene.

SHE called Joe - she wanted out of your parents house.
She demanded to only go with Jo's family - if you were trying to escape the dominion of your parents why would you go with them or your brother? She wants OUT!
Joe's family think that your family is abusive - why would they let her just go with them? PARTICUARLY knowing that she had just called them and asked them to come get her away?


Your parents then sent her away to CA where she can never see the boy in his underpants again. Probably confirming her beliefs that her parents are controlling (even if they do let her 'date' - they are trying to get her away from Jo!)


Granted, I don't know any of you. THis is just my take. I think it makes a lot more sense then MORMONS (who think drugs are wrong) Drugging your sister - not just to trap her but so that she will actively call them from her parents and ask to be picked up.

As for the cokes - why is this evidence of drugging? Surely a young christian boy dropping by with some coca cola is far less confonting to your sister then showing up with condoms? I think it is just something that you'd bring round to a friends house.

I am sorry, I just think the drugging hypothesis is completely crazy.

My guess, is that your sister is now in CA thinking to herself 'WHY, oh why, did I do that. It probably isn't that bad. But at the place I was at then (mentally) - I just HAD to GET OUT'. It makes sense that her friends don't know - things can come to crisis point very quickly. Particuarly when she is apparently 'sunny' - some sought of shield to the world.

I really think shipping off the probelmatic child is a bit of an overreaction. THe whole situation was an overreaction. Your parents should probably talk to Jo's parents - they can demonstrate quite easily at least that she doesn't sleep on a matress on the floor. Your parents seeing them as the mormon family trying to steal their child probably didn't help the situation any.

Just talk to her.

Talulah

Church of Christ...bah!

For one, CoC has some really weird ideas about Mormons and your parents need to *not* being trying to get advice from a preacher, as if that was the person to go to in a situation like this. You know, I am sure, that most preachers in the CoC have little to no training in anything except a lifetime of prejudice and arrogance.

Actually, I did some really weird shit when I was 19, because I felt trapped. And because I just wanted to be left alone, not preached at all the time and told how evil I was. You can't look at a person and tell what is going on with them, especially with the wall that the CoC forces you to put up. Sounds like to me she just couldn't take it anymore. She wants out.

And the whole 'Mormons do this kind of thing' is bullshit.

Whenever I hear stories like this, I try and imagine what people said about *me* when I ran away with a woman I met on the internet. I left my parent's car in the Walmart parking lot after work and didn't look back. I didn't care if they thought I was dead. Of course everyone was TOLD I was on drugs because that was the way I was 'acting.' "Oh my god, that woman is drugging her because she would never act this way otherwise." My parents are CoC.

That was 5 years ago and I am just fine now.

*~Mandy~*

Please note: I've merged this thread into the original for better clarity on this subject-- AspenMama, SL Moderator.

This is an update from my last thread, so I won't go into detail about all that happened. I just wanted to let everyone here know that my family was 100% correct on their assumption that mind control, and drugs had been used on my sister. She remembers very little of the last month. Yesterday she came to stay with me for a few days, my parents thought she was doing okay enough now. She thought she was either going crazy, or had a brain tumor because she could not remember anything anymore. She got some pictures back, and couldn't remember parts of them She was so scared, and she didn't say anything. She has no idea why she was even at that boy's house. He is NOT her boyfriend! She has no idea how her stuff go over there, has no recollection of filing the police report, and remembers only a few things of that night. Last night she had a breakdown b/c she says the song "Amazing Grace" would play over and over in her head, and she couldn't hear anyone's voice, only the song. That is what happened that night w/ the police and all. She is completely terrified of these people, and of herself. She thinks that someone might say something that will trigger her, and she will call them, have them pick her up, and she will never see her family again

I can't possibly go into detail on the whole story. Suffice it to say that she remebers little of the last month, and when she tries to remember all she hears is the song. She sees herself outside of her body, like from a different angle, she sees herself and what she is doing, but she doesn't hear anything but the song. This is the scarriest fundy thing I have ever heard of in my life. Oh, and the kids older brother just got back from his "Mission" bc he was fired from a pharmacy for writing himself RX.

I know this sounds like something out of a bad movie, but it has really happened.

RevDahlia

Is it possible that your sister may be suffering from some kind of psychotic break or other mental problem, and that the fixation on this boy was a symptom, not a cause?

SimplyAtheistic

I would suspect drugs. They are about the only thing that can disable memory like that. Even if she was having a mental breakdown she would have a 99% chance of remembering everything, so I would suspect drugs.
Jake

*~Mandy~*

We are pretty sure it was some kind of drug, probably a RX drug that the brother had gotten from the pharmacy he was fired from. The boy would always bring her candy and drinks. Also the order of things get messed up, and she can't remember what happened when, or how she got to certain places, or why she was there. She remembers one event, but didn't remember all of the people there until she got her pictures back. Still in her mind one person is missing, that is in the pictures. As of right now the police are checking into it, but I seriously doubt they find anything. The scary part is that these people have told the police that my sister is in an abusive home, so the police want to be in contact w/ her. My parents went in today to talk to the detective who is going to investigate if at all possible.