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Old 06-26-2003, 08:56 AM   #1
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Unhappy Please Help!!! I think my sister is being drugged/brainwashed

I hardly know where to begin... My family all belong to the Church of Christ. My sister became friends with this Mormon boy "Joe" and claimed that Joe wanted to study the Bible w/ her, thinking she would convert him to CoC. My dad told her that she could study w/ him, but my Dad had to be there, and he had to have his parents permission (both kids are 17). Thursday morning my dad found "Joe" in my sister's closet. He was told to leave (walking down the hill to his truck in his underwear ) My sister claimed he was there to study the Bible (it was 7 AM). My parents had planned to be gone the whole day, leaving my sister home alone, so now they took her w/ them, and lectured her all the way to my grandparents. One of my Grandmas came home w/ them to stay the night, so not much was said. Mom and Dad left Saturday morning to take Grandma back home, sister said she was leaving, my parents called my brother to come to the house to keep and eye on her... She stayed home all day... everyone went to bed at midnight, and she was gone at 3 AM when my Dad went in to check on her. They thought she was staying w/a girlfriend that she had mentioned earlier... Found out she was at that boy's house, Dad went out and got her, His parents called the Police, and the police were immediately at my parents house. Sister filled out a report of abduction, but didn't file charges, boys parents claimed that my sister was in a domestic violence situation, and was abused, not allowed to date, and slept on a matress in the floor (all untrue!!!). Police left, sister called boy to pick her up, my parents called the police back out, called neighbors and really good friends to come over and help talk her out of leaving w/ the boy, nothing worked. Luckily they had called my brother and he got there just in time to block the kids car in. Kid was w/ his mother and brother, my sister was in the car, and ready to leave. Sister has eyes as cold as steel, and will not budge, my brother grabs kid by the coller and jerks him out of drivers seat, everyone is begging my sister to just get out of the car, she can go live w/ anyone but this kid, ect. My mom decides to just flip out after a while b/c my sister is NOT budging from the vehicle. My dad is trying to console her, she thows him on the ground, and finally just lays down on the ground beside my sisters car door and screams until my sister gets out of the car. (By this time 5 police cars are there). Sister finally agrees to go home w/ my brother, and then next morning (Monday) my parents showed up to tell me what is going on. We decided that sending her to my Uncle in CA is the best for now, just to get her away from this kid and his crazy family. She agrees to go, and now has a totally different personality than her steely eyes of the night before. She is now in CA w/ my uncle, and my parents are trying to decide what to do. I called her freind to find out what was going on that was so bad my sister had to leave... her freind didn't have a clue, and thought it was probably just for attention. My parents called thier preacher who asked alot of questions, then suggested that these people were probably drugging her. This makes some since, as her friend told me that the boy would wait on her, and get her food/ drinks all of the time, and the few times that he was out at my parents he brought drinks, even at 5 AM Thursday he had brought 2 Cokes. The preacher says that Mormons sometimes do this Has anyone else known of this practice? The drugs actually make more since than anything b/c my MIL asked what was wrong w/ my sister b/c her demenor had changed so much, as did my SIL (I just had a baby, and they have been seeing each other a little bit). She isn't even hung up on this guy, and claims that they are just friends (sister's friend verified).

THis is the short version of the story. Any advice is greatly appreciated! My family is all trying to figure out what is wrong, so any other ideas will be taken into consideration. My sister had such a different personality when she left, that the drugging makes alot of since, it was like she was a different person.

I just cannot escape funda-MENTAL-ism:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Old 06-26-2003, 09:23 AM   #2
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Sorry to hear about this. People do crazy things at the young age of 17. That's part of it. I did a lot of really stupid things that don't make sense to me now. Don't know why I did them. Also, it's not unlikely that your sister is doing drugs. Either given to her or she's doing drugs on her own. Someone drugging her sounds weird. I've never heard of Mormons doing that, but I don't know too many Mormons. Anyway, yes, keep her the hell away from that kid. Being a Mormon is bad enough. Really a person can be brainwashed a lot easier than you might think.
By Mormons or whoever. Especially at a young age. You may disagree, but I believe the CoC is a cult, however I was in the International Church of Christ, so that's different. Anyway, I was brainwashed by the church to think that it was the only true church, and I committed my whole life to this church. It may be good for your sister to be out in California for a while. Give her some time to figure out some things by herself. Sounds like she was treating your family pretty bad, and being quite disobedient. Of course she's almost an adult, and I'm sure she's feeling all grown up, but she's still a kid. I think she needs some time to miss you all. She'll get homesick. Sounds like she needs tough love right now. Don't go easy on her. She's getting herself messed up with who knows what, and she has to know it's not okay. Who knows where it could lead her? She needs to get her act together and be a responsible and respectful daughter who does not take off in the middle of the night. She can do that when she's 18 and moved out of the house. Then her decisions are her own, but she needs to be careful. I'm sure she's heard it all before though. In the end she'll learn her lessons, even if she has to learn the hard way. Hopefully it's not drugs though. I'd get her tested for drugs. And who knows about this boy's family. I don't know why your sister would let them think that she's being abused. Her friend is right, probably just for a attention. But that's still a weird thing to do. Maybe your sister is starting to have mental problems. She should see a counselor or something. She should get straightened out pretty soon. It would be best to get off that road before it leads her to more bad things.

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Old 06-26-2003, 09:25 AM   #3
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Very sorry to hear about all this.

I think you would get more good responses in SL&S.
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to bad i can't use the search feature. i vaguely remember a thread just like this one a while ago.
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It's also possible she is just going through a very rebellious streak. Teenagers are know to do that sometimes.

I know I did and I was considered a "perfectly behaved" child. I would sneak out of the house at night, sneak lovers in, have sex in cars in front of school, lie about where I was going, threaten to walk out on my family, snoop around, and basically was a real shit to my family for about a year.

You know the situation best, of course, but I think simple teenage rebellion is a possibility.
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Someone drugging her sounds weird.
Not so weird. Haven't you heard of rohypnol, the "date rape" drug? Mandy's story doesn't have enough to go on, but it's quite possible she was drugged by this teenaged boy so she would have sex with him. I doubt Mormonism has anything to do with it.
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I don't get why were' assuming drugs. I could look pretty steel-eyed when my parents were trying to control me. ~shrug~ But I wasn't there.

About the only conclusion I could draw is that Bible Study probably isn't what's going on and her converting him probably didn't happen.

(please note problem in thinking your kid can take her christianity and evangelize without consequence. (shakes head))


But anyway, yeah, getting away from the fam in CA sounds like a good idea. That whole drama is incredible.
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I thought that Mormons were against drugs and alcohol use--and so I doubt that your sister was drugged. From the details, I doubt that her sister was drugged for sex--why would she make up a story about Bible study at the time?

IMO, I think that your sister may just want to get under your parents' skin or out of their house. If this is the case, then she got what she wanted. The only thing that sounds out of place is that the police were involved.

Other than that, I would say this would be a typical teenager rebellion thing, even if you and your other siblings didn't ever do anything like this. My brother and I have really different levels of how far we will go to make our parents upset.

Of course, I don't know your sister at all--that is just the first thing that springs to mind. I am sure that this is a stressful time for everyone involved and I hope that it works out for the best for everyone.

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Thanks for the responses thus far. I left out alot of detail, and just gave the bare bones of the story. She has been wanting to do a Bible Study w/ this kid, but my dad told her she had to have his parents permission b/c he was only 17, and my dad had to be present, too. She wasn't making that part up. I thought basic teenage rebellion, too, but it seems to have gone beyond that, especially b/c the police became involved. They have been out to the house 3 times now. I'm thinking it's brainwashing actually. My sister even got her birth certificate and SS card out of the fire proof box before she left. She also took everything of sentimental value. My parents were not upset when she left, but have been going thru some of the stuff that has been brought back from the Mormons house and found the BC and SS card. That's pretty scarry to me... It means she wasn't planning on comming back. Maybe she is just really depressed or something It's just SO out of character. I am still in my 20s, and I remember some of the stuff I did to rebell against my parents, but this really goes beyond all reason. I keep trying to figure out if something went on at home that I don't know about, and I have called one of her friends who didn't know what was going on w/ my sister. The part that really sounds strange is that the Mormons told the police that my sister slept on a matress on the floor... my sister has a great room, complete w/ solid oak entertainment center, TV, satillite, ect. They claimed she wasn't allowed to date at 17... but she has had several dates with several boys in the last month. Either she has been telling these people that, or they are lying to the police... regardless, the police have concluded that this is not the situation, and have been trying to help my sister understand that she is in a loving home, ect. She has a truck, and gets her ins. paid for, ect. not to mention that my parents actually care where she spends her time. It's apparent that they all really love her. Also, if this were just regular rebellion, I don't understand why she wouldn't agree to go with anyone else that night. My parents told her that she could go anywhere but home w/ him and his family.

I will keep all that has been said in mind... Oh, and I think that the CoC is a cult too... Glad I broke free... But I do think the Mormons are a little more extreme than the CoC... Last night my parents were searching the internet and stumbled upon some religous deconversion stories... That was what really convinced me I was wrong... Maybe a new door is opening for my whole family.
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Teenage rebellion can vary in degree and choice of activity. CoC is pretty wacky and brainwashing themselves from my limited knowledge...I know that in many cases the rebellion is in direct proportion to the level of strictness. Not being able to date at 17 is pretty strict. I knew good kids that got pregnant and one who hooked up with a felon.
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