Ronin

The Murderer's Confession

When someone did me grievous wrong
I sought the Bible as a guide
for I've been told my whole life long
life's answers can be found inside.

I hoped to learn of toleration
in our dealings with each other
I'd search for just the right quotation
on how to make each man my brother.

So I read the Word of the Lord:
Moses gave His stern command:
"Put the children to the sword!
Rape the virgins! Steal the land!"

Certainly He had His cause
for killing every Cannanite;
someone broke immutable laws,
and punishment must make it right.

Such acts of murder, theft, and rape
aren't sins when God commands their doing:
Go get them all! Let none escape!
Carry out the Great Subduing.!

Thrilling as it was to read
of sinners getting recompensed,
it didn't really meet my need
and so I turned some pages hence.

Again I read God's Holy Word:
"Kill everyone within the city!
Let your sword be undeterred!
Upon the infants show no pity!"

Now surely He, who made us all,
commits no wrong in taking life
for God decides who'll rise or fall
who will kill, and who shall rape whose wife.

Enthralled, I turned and read some more:
"Rain pestilence upon the earth!
Immerse yourselves in blood and gore
and make your foes all curse their birth!

"Let none survive my godly wrath!
Pelt the Animals with stones!
Leave nothing in the aftermath
but smoldering ash and rotting bones!"

When children called God's prophets names
They might as well have mocked at Him.
God had such ones sent up in flames
or had them torn from limb to limb.

From Bible reading now I learn
to follow God's Eternal Plan:
How anger, greed, and lust can earn
sainthood for a wicked man.

When land or flesh were much desired
or someone's pride must be defended,
prophets could be quickly hired
to say this was what God intended.

Their consciences were swiftly soothed
by word or sign or sacred vision
which signified that God approved
their thieving, murderous decision.

And seeing nothing wrong in this,
the next time that I met my foe,
nothing, I thought, could be amiss
in dealing him a fatal blow.

~~ Copyright 1999 by Steve McRoberts

From this great site I recently found.

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In my experience as a violent crimes detective, I have noticed an abundance of either claim of God-inspired or God-approved motive for horrendous crimes against other human beings.

The 'praying hands', crucifix and 'only God can judge me' tattoos are also very popular jailhouse works.

So, while there may be those that continuously posit that religion is good for humanity, there is more evidence in plain view that it is really just a refuge for scoundrels.

I ate Pascal's Wafer

Yup. It seems to me like religion itself isn't good for humanity. The good which comes out of religion stems from the good which the followers of that religion are able to do.

IMHO, any religion that can shift the responsibility of wrongdoing away from horribly bad people is not a good religion.

-Nick

The Other Michael

What happened to the "render unto Caesar" concept? Or is mundane judgement of little concern in relation to eternity?

But on the other hand, the felons were damned from birth via Original Sin by their God (if Christian), so a life of crime is just adding a bit more fuel to the everlasting fire.

cheers,
Michael

I ate Pascal's Wafer

Oh, come on. You know that xians aren't perfect--just forgiven. So, these criminals make a little mistake here and there. So they rob somebody, or kill somebody. Really, as far as gawd is concerned, this is no worse than your own white lies. The difference is that they are forgiven and can make whatever mistakes they will and still get to heaven, while you burn.

Nice system, eh?

-Nick

Biff the unclean

FOR RENT
Pole, ten feet long, for any Xian to use to touch this topic

sweep

thankfully, that vision of anarchy was over fifty eight years ago. putting german children to the *insert lethal modern instrument* and raping was revenge for the rape and devastation of russian territory. A german army in tatters, employing thousands of young german boys, forced to arms by brutal commanders. Brigades of hitler youth, tank hunting squads on *bicycles*!
too much cruelty and revenge. stop fighting.

the ripples continued for decades, and paths were opened, for revenge and disaster. etcetera

yet fortune for others who embrace the virtue of forgiveness. In other words we don't all look at the black side of the book, for others it is white, and for some the cake is cut differently.

Biff the unclean

Go to bed sweep. It's 2:30 in the morning and you've wandered into the wrong thread

sweep

ronin makes a good point. yet, while the OT does offer a refuge for scoundrels, it doesn't hold up in court, or when people with firearms are going to stop said 'scoundrels' from killing children as their will permits.

fair enough, 'scoundrels' are going to have a clear conscience if they put their faith on christian literature, but, as I suggested in my last post, the matter isn't black and white. A majority of christian folk don't want to hurt or rape. Now, if the aim of this thread was to take a trip into the fascinating, and shocking world of violent criminals then, I posit, in am in the 'right' thread. If, on the other hand we are to be dissuaded from the whole idea and reality of christian life, by making a hundred or so violent criminals exemplary of christian life, then I am in the wrong thread. Surely this line of reasoning is similar to saying:

'attention! nearly 1 percent of drug users end up dead from overdosing on ecstacy. Ignore the tens of thousands partying and laughing. drugs are bad!

Biff the unclean

Tens of thousands of happy drugies and only a hundred or so violent criminals? Okay then….Detective Ronin do your duty, take this guy downtown.

sweep

for those who misunderstand my position and care to understand it (and for your benefit, biff)

the percentage of those who are both christian AND violent is equal to: ?

the percentage of registered criminals who use biblical texts to relieve their conscience is equal to: ?

the percentage of registered criminals who follow biblical doctrines is equal to: ?

*answers section*

a. between 1 & 10 percent
b. between 11 & 50 percent
c. over 50 percent

?