Theli

A simple question about probability and evolution.
Did god create humans in his own image, or was it the other way around?

Let's call god A, and living creatures B.
Let's also reffer to our own human nature as 2948593. In a state of constant evolution, B is currently 2948593.


God created man in his image
I would now like to state that the probablility for A = B(2948593) at this very moment is near insignificance, due to the constant change of B, and the unchangable nature of A.

Man created god in his image
But what if A was a product of B? B -> A
The probablility for A = B(2948593) is now much higher.

Another way of looking at it is trying to shoot a rapidly moving target.
First while standing still. (A = 2948593 B = 2948593)
Then while moving in the same speed and direction as the target. (A = B = 2948593)

Let's assume for the sake of the argument that the bullets has an infinite velocity.
Just a thought.


I might need to correct some things later on. You will forgive me if there are errors, it was written in a haste.

Deggial (Theli).

Ted Hoffman

Man created God.
Because God inherited the characteristics man has.
- first man created many gods to keep track of all the many variables in life (weather, fertility, war, disease, death etc), the he later decided one god was better (less sacrifices to make, unification of people etc)
- God is a father and has offspring - like man
- God is a living thing (they call him "the living God") - like man
- God makes mistakes, gets angry, loves things, has desires, likes controlling things etc - like man
- God wants to be loved - like man
- God expresses himself in English/ Hebrew etc - like man

And so on and so forth. God inherited characteristics of man.
- Why doesnt God use telepathy instead of language?
- Why does God have desires?
- Does God have to have a reason for doing things?

Why did man create God? To help him understand himself and his surrounding (god of gaps).

To add meaning to his life - provide hope in the face of inflexible and relentless mortality and an endless and huge cosmos.

The bullet analogy: If U shoot a target moving at the same speed as you, and the bullet is moving faster than both of you, then the bullet will hit the target. The target may then have a little more speed than you (depending on its mass).

Then what?

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Answerer

Thats a good question which I had thought of before and my final conclusion is : Ancient man often believed God created them without noticing or aware that it was actually them who created the concept or 'existence' of the ultimate Being so as to fill the gap in their knowledge of nature and purpose of life.
Of course, this is only a simplified version of what I actually think.

Theli

hehe... I tried to not include physics as an issue.
My purpose with the bullet anology was to state that a target moving simultainesly as you is VERY much easier to hit than a target that moves pass you.
Comparing this to god and evolution. The chance for god (unchanging/standing still) to have the same traits as a human (changing/evolving/moving target), just as the chance for a random shot to hit the moving target is insignificant.

I think the first godbelief was based on fear of powerfull natural disasters/fenomena.
The most basic of human reactions out of fear of something powerfull we can't escape - subjugation/worship.