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RJS · 10-03-2002, 09:38 AM

figured this would be interesting fodder for criticism.

REV. JERRY FALWELL CALLS THE PROPHET MOHAMMED 'A TERRORIST'

The Rev. Jerry Falwell will call Islam�s founder and most sacred figure, Mohammed, "a terrorist" on 60 MINUTES this Sunday night, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

�I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough�by both Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war,� Falwell tells CBS. �In my opinion�Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses, and I think Mohammed set an opposite example.�

Falwell hits total controversy while affirming the Christian Right�s steadfast support for the state of Israel against its Islamic enemies.

The interview with CBS reporter Bob Simon, in which Falwell hints that the Christian Right influences U.S. government policy toward Israel, has been set for broadcast, network sources say.

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Falwell sent a personal protest to President Bush, and the White House received 100,000 e-mail protests from Christians when Bush urged Israel to remove its forces from Palestinian towns earlier this year. Falwell believes Bush is well aware of the Christian constituency. �There are 70 million of us�[and] there�s nothing that would bring the wrath of the Christian public in this country down on this government like abandoning or opposing Israel on a critical matter,� Falwell tells Simon.

Falwell and conservative Christians support the Israelis and condemn their enemies because they believe the triumph of Israel is God�s will. The Jews� return to their ancient homeland � and sole ownership of the territories Arabs and Israelis both lay claim to -- is a precondition for the second coming of Christ, according to the Fundamentalist Evangelical Christians� interpretation of the Bible. The Biblical scenario is not a savory one for many Jews, however. �God save us from these people,� says Israeli political analyst Yossi Alpher. �When you see what these people are encouraging Israel and the U.S. to do�ignore the Palestinians, kick them out�they are leading us into a scenario of out-and-out disaster,� he tells Simon.

But disaster is part of the scenario. Many Fundamentalist Evangelicals believe there will be catastrophic events on earth, some occurring already, including the turmoil in the Middle East, culminating in the Battle of Armageddon in which Christ will triumph and begin ruling the earth. At this point, they believe, non-believers will be destroyed, good Christians saved and any remaining Jews converted to Christianity.

Says Ed McAteer, a founder of the Moral Majority and known as the godfather of the Christian Right, �I believe that we are seeing prophecy unfold so rapidly and dramatically and wonderfully, and, without exaggeration, [it] makes me breathless.�

Demigawd · 10-03-2002, 09:45 AM

DEMIGAWD CALLS JERRY FALWELL A FAT-ASS DEMAGOGUE WHO USES CHRISTIANITY TO GAIN POWER AND WEALTH AT THE EXPENSE OF THE GULLIBLE

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Orestes · 10-03-2002, 09:54 AM

Umm, Moses set an example of love? What Moses is he talking about?

Tom Sawyer · 10-03-2002, 12:24 PM

PETER HIGGINS CALLS THE REV. JERRY FALWELL 'A TERRORIST'

Peter Higgins will call Moral Majority member and most sacred figure, Falwell, "a terrorist" on 60 MINUTES this Sunday night, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

�I think Falwell was a terrorist. I read enough�by both Christians and non-Christians, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war,� Higgins tells CBS. �In my opinion�Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses, and I think Falwell set an opposite example.�

[ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: peteyh ]

Pantera · 10-03-2002, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Orestes:
Umm, Moses set an example of love? What Moses is he talking about?

Quote:

Numbers 31:15-18 (NET Bible)

And Moses said to them, "Have you allowed all the women to live? Look, these people, through the counsel of Balaam, caused the Israelites to act treacherously against the Lord in the matter of Peor-and there was the plague among the community of the Lord. Now therefore kill every boy, and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse with a man. But all the young women who have not had sexual intercourse with a man will be yours.

Persumably not this one.

[ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: Pantera ]

aikido7 · 10-03-2002, 01:54 PM

Well, both Falwell (and Pat Robertson) agree with Osama bin Laden in one respect: America had it coming for the 9-11 bombings. I guess the difference is that Falwell sees the U.S. possessed by Satan and bin Laden sees the U.S. AS Satan.

A matter of degree, but the result is the same. The biblical illiteracy of Falwell and his ilk is truly frightening. Hate, not poison gas and nukes, is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction. Nineteen martyrs gave us a lesson on that topic, but most of us were too busy talking in class and didn't listen. But we will listen to idiots like Falwell....! Geeze Louise!

Hey, wait a minute! Didn't Mohammed say in the Quran that he came "not to bring peace but a bomb."?

RELIGION!!! The world can't seem to live with it or without it.

yet

[ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: aikido7 ]

10-03-2002, 09:38 AM	#1
RJS Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 303	Mohammed is a terrorist figured this would be interesting fodder for criticism. REV. JERRY FALWELL CALLS THE PROPHET MOHAMMED 'A TERRORIST' The Rev. Jerry Falwell will call Islam�s founder and most sacred figure, Mohammed, "a terrorist" on 60 MINUTES this Sunday night, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. �I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough�by both Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war,� Falwell tells CBS. �In my opinion�Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses, and I think Mohammed set an opposite example.� Falwell hits total controversy while affirming the Christian Right�s steadfast support for the state of Israel against its Islamic enemies. The interview with CBS reporter Bob Simon, in which Falwell hints that the Christian Right influences U.S. government policy toward Israel, has been set for broadcast, network sources say. MORE Falwell sent a personal protest to President Bush, and the White House received 100,000 e-mail protests from Christians when Bush urged Israel to remove its forces from Palestinian towns earlier this year. Falwell believes Bush is well aware of the Christian constituency. �There are 70 million of us�[and] there�s nothing that would bring the wrath of the Christian public in this country down on this government like abandoning or opposing Israel on a critical matter,� Falwell tells Simon. Falwell and conservative Christians support the Israelis and condemn their enemies because they believe the triumph of Israel is God�s will. The Jews� return to their ancient homeland � and sole ownership of the territories Arabs and Israelis both lay claim to -- is a precondition for the second coming of Christ, according to the Fundamentalist Evangelical Christians� interpretation of the Bible. The Biblical scenario is not a savory one for many Jews, however. �God save us from these people,� says Israeli political analyst Yossi Alpher. �When you see what these people are encouraging Israel and the U.S. to do�ignore the Palestinians, kick them out�they are leading us into a scenario of out-and-out disaster,� he tells Simon. But disaster is part of the scenario. Many Fundamentalist Evangelicals believe there will be catastrophic events on earth, some occurring already, including the turmoil in the Middle East, culminating in the Battle of Armageddon in which Christ will triumph and begin ruling the earth. At this point, they believe, non-believers will be destroyed, good Christians saved and any remaining Jews converted to Christianity. Says Ed McAteer, a founder of the Moral Majority and known as the godfather of the Christian Right, �I believe that we are seeing prophecy unfold so rapidly and dramatically and wonderfully, and, without exaggeration, [it] makes me breathless.�

10-03-2002, 12:24 PM	#4
Tom Sawyer Talk Freethought Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, eh Posts: 42,293	PETER HIGGINS CALLS THE REV. JERRY FALWELL 'A TERRORIST' Peter Higgins will call Moral Majority member and most sacred figure, Falwell, "a terrorist" on 60 MINUTES this Sunday night, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. �I think Falwell was a terrorist. I read enough�by both Christians and non-Christians, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war,� Higgins tells CBS. �In my opinion�Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses, and I think Falwell set an opposite example.� [ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: peteyh ]</p>

10-03-2002, 01:54 PM	#6
aikido7 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Here Posts: 234	Well, both Falwell (and Pat Robertson) agree with Osama bin Laden in one respect: America had it coming for the 9-11 bombings. I guess the difference is that Falwell sees the U.S. possessed by Satan and bin Laden sees the U.S. AS Satan. A matter of degree, but the result is the same. The biblical illiteracy of Falwell and his ilk is truly frightening. Hate, not poison gas and nukes, is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction. Nineteen martyrs gave us a lesson on that topic, but most of us were too busy talking in class and didn't listen. But we will listen to idiots like Falwell....! Geeze Louise! Hey, wait a minute! Didn't Mohammed say in the Quran that he came "not to bring peace but a bomb."? RELIGION!!! The world can't seem to live with it or without it. yet [ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: aikido7 ]</p>

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