Nowhere357

Well I think you enjoyed that too much.

sophie

Hi Mickey,

I wish I knew completely what it was that I am asking. If I did then I might be gracious enough to share it, So far this is what I think.

There are at least two types of material. One type which temporarily defies entropy and another type which obeys entropy.

Flesh defies entropy for a certain duration then self-destructs.


Why should there be such distinctive types of material in this world is my bigger question?

Mickey

Sophie

Seems like this is a very different question from your original post!I am not qualified to answer any of your questions but am vain enough to try.
As I understand it,entropy is the tendency to disorder in matter.Ultimate order is the singularity,the single entity which was all before the big bang.The beginning of the universe (at least as so far known to followers of big bang cosmology)is the differentiation of the singularity into an uncountable infinity of particles which are always on the move.
From the human point of view the time period over which we are alive may seem like a pause in entropy,but in fact the development of the foeutus and its eventual return to lifleless organic matter is simply movement along the axis of progress towards entropy.
Our lifetime is not a stable period,we change constantly.You are not exactly the same person from one day to the next.Entropy should not be confused with decay and death.
Science would say there are no different materials,all are part of the progress towards entropy which we see as the growth and development of the universe.

Mickey

sophie

Mickey, entropy is the tendency to disorder in matter. Entropy is also defined as the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity.

Decay which may or may not cause entropy in a system, like skin decay, I am using generally to mean availability of energy for work.

My line of thought is that humans for the brief period they exist, they renew themselves. Why should there have developed two systems, one which renewed itself and another which did not renew itself?

Flesh like beings renew themselves whereas plain mass-energy combinations do not. One I find temporarily mutes entropy while the other closely mirrors what we term entropy.

Mickey

Sophie,
So are we now talking about the difference between organic and inorganic matter?
So far as I am aware all organic life forms reproduce themselves in some way,and all are liable to death and decay in some form or another.
If you are thinking of ,say,a rock,it seems to me that a piece of hard igneous rock could exist unchanged for perhaps millions of years.It can't reproduce or renew itself,but other forces are able to reform it say in volcanic activity.It seems to avoid decay /entropy far more successfully than we do.

As to why organic life has evolved,or how,who knows?

Mickey

sophie

Mickey,

we seem closer. Only last night I was imagining some basic properties of organic matter apart from inorganic matter when it comes to the gravitational force.

It must have been at some time gravity was organising our solar system. The period of fundamentals had already passed ( In my theory of the universe, this is the period where the basic building blocks of existence had supplied proof of its existence). We are now in the period of macro-organising. Large bodies were grouping together at this period. Gold, platinum earth-mud and the other inorganic materials were being clumped together. To me it seems as if the inorganic material was not affected the same way the organic material was affected by gravity.

Now I am thinking the gravitational constant is slightly different for flesh when contrasted with inorganic material. The organic material organised on the basis of 'floating' above the inorganic material.

To prove this would mean a pound of flesh (in its renewing form?) would fall slightly slower than a pound of sand. (Try dropping a 5 pound live chicken next to a pound of chicken feed!)

I agree on the point that mountains generally last longer than us BUT mountains exist in waiting on entropy. We may flop around for a few moments BUT we seem to avoid the 'spin' towards immediate death or waiting for death. We are pro-active in the face of entropy.

Amos

Hello sophie, the chicken will land first unless you put lots of sand in the chicken feed.