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New evidence for anoxic Archean atmosphere
New sulpher isotopic evidence for very low oxygen Archean atmosphere. The new evidence is in the form of sulpher isotopic ratios preserved in sulphide inclusions in diamonds from the Orapa kimberlite mine.
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Calibration of Sulfate Levels in the Archean Ocean Mass-Independent Sulfur of Inclusions in Diamond and Sulfur Recycling on Early Earth |
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I thought it was long established that high O2 / low CO2 is a result of photosynthesis. Who argues for a pre-biotic oxygen atmosphere, and how do they explain the maintenance of oxygen levels without photosynthesis?
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They're claiming that this is evidence for low concentration (<1%), not oxygen concentration comparable to the present day's.
A mechanism that can create free oxygen is photodissociation of water; the hydrogen may evaporate into outer space, leaving the oxygen behind. |
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Thanks for the links. I was going to spend the day drinking beer and playing games. Instead, I spent the day drinking beer and downloading articles.
Oh Boy! jobar, Let me try to get to you in the AM. It involves J. Wells and the Icons of Evolution, Chp. 2 crap as well as the abiogensis as opposed to evolution, the Baumgardener flood/continental subduction model, the only living early high O2 advocate (Hiroshi Omotto), and a bunch of other stuff. OR, somebody else could do it (please???). GH |
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Thanks for excellent links again, Patrick.
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The only living scientist to argue for an early oxic atmosphere is Hiroshi Ohmoto and some of his students ( sample papers cited below). He has been countered by Holland 1997 among others. What is interesting about the Farquhar et al paper that Patrick brought to our attention is that it supports the heterogeneity of the mantle, and extends the data reported by Canil. This is particularly relevent to the results reported by Delano, who argues that the volcanic outgasing in the Hadean and Archean could not have provided a strongly reduced atmosphere. Wiechert’s commnetary also points out additional interests, including the observation that the results of Farquhar et al , and Habicht et al taken together seem to rule out significant ammonia concentrations in the lower Archaen atmosphere and that there could be significant uV radiation even at the Earth’s surface. These last two points raise issues for the original Miller/Urey experiment's significance to the OOL. But Miller, as well as others, have repeatedly shown that complex molecules can form under less reduced conditions, and even the original apparatus produes interesting molecules with different gas mixtures. Canil, Dante 2002 “Vanadium in peridotites, mantle redox and tectonic environmnets: Archean to present” Earth and Planetary Science Letters 195 (2002) 75-90. Delano, John W. 2001 “Redox History of the Earth’s Interior since ~3900 Ma:Implications for Prebiotic Molecules” Origins of Life and the Evolution of the Biosphere v.31(4-5):311-341 J. Farquhar, B. A. Wing, K. D. McKeegan, J. W. Harris, P. Cartigny, and M. H. Thiemens 2002 Mass-independent Sulfur of Inclusions in Diamond and Sulfur Recycling on Early Earth Science 2002 298: 2369-2372 Holland, Heinrich D. 1999 “When did the Earth’s atmosphere become oxic? A Reply.” The Geochemical News #100: 20-22 Kirsten S. Habicht, Michael Gade, Bo Thamdrup, Peter Berg, and Donald E. Canfield 2002 Calibration of Sulfate Levels in the Archean Ocean Science 298: 2372-2374 Ohmoto, H. 1996 Evidence in pre-2.2 Ga paleosols for the early evolution of atmospheric oxygen and terrestrial biota. Geology, 24:1135-1138 Ohmoto, H. 1997 “When Did the Earth’s Atmosphere Become Oxic?” The Geochemical News, 93: 12-13, 26-27. Uwe H. Wiechert 2002 Earth's Early Atmosphere Science 298: 2341-2342 |
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While we're on early, early life, the newest Nature (vol 420, pp 841-844, 19/26 Dec 2002) has an article by J S Reader and G F Joyce titled "A ribozyme composed of only two different nucleotides."
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A good article. I was interested that there were only 3 guanine locations in the original ribozyme that could not be substituted without loss of catalytic function
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