Living Dead Chipmunk

Apparently, there's no such thing as a straight answer. Considering how much evading and skirting goes on whenever a direct question is asked, I can't help but wonder how Christians can talk about "truth" with a straight face. They don't seem to know too much about it in a material sense, even enough to describe their own beliefs.

{{Edited to add the following}}

"My children, I do not exist. Go and spread the word of my lack of existance throughout the world!"

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Starboy

Hey guys, welcome to the "Christians can't give strait answers" club. I have had similar "discussions" with agapeo in the past. As far as I can tell he doesn't reach conclusion based on reason but on feeling. His god is "true" because his god is "love". He knows he is right because he feels it in his "heart". He does not discount reason but finds it unsatisfactory as a means to make decisions on what to believe. In short agapeo "thinks" with emotions. Reason need not apply. I expect to see a response from him sentence by sentence that says mostly nothing.

Starboy

agapeo

Hi Joel (I just noticed the difference from your user name and so I'll go with this. k?),
Ahh, excellent question. How does He love me? Let me count the ways. Bear in mind that what you ask I can in no way verify, so you're just have to take my word for it. Otherwise known as having faith.
He/it takes care of my needs. And sometimes my wants as well. How so? you may ask. Well, when I ask Him/it for something I usually get an answer. Of course not always the one I expect. But you know the saying: "Father knows best!" Ahh, but you'll notice I said "usually". Well, to be honest about it I sometimes ask for things which aren't available. For instance I do recall asking Him/it to "smite" someone that really pissed me off and He/it didn't honor that request.
Thank you kindly. I'm not sure I could withstand the pain. Low pain tolerance level and all.
Short version: Through much study. Heck, I've even learned a few more things about Him/it on this "excellent website." I suppose I owe some thanks to those that brought this site about. Thanks!

agapeo

Hi Starboy!

Glad ya could join the party! Did ya bring the beer btw? I've got the pretzels.

Edited to add: Btw Starboy, do I owe you anything for the phyco-analysis? Generally one pays to have themselves analyized.

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Defiant Heretic

I was not responding to you when I posted the IPU comments. To be perfectly candid, I was simply making a joke. (The thread was in RR&P at the time.)

I honestly do not know enough about you to attempt to 'penetrate your mind', and I apologize for the misunderstanding.

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agapeo

Actually Wyz "white" can be used to describe the temperature outside. Such as in "white-hot". Sorry you didn't like my answers and that they didn't change your opinions, but I really didn't have high hopes that anyone would. But really now, do you honestly think that most Christians would be able to answer questions related to their beliefs in a satisfactory manner to you? Have any?

Heathen Dawn

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DigitalDruid

agapeo:
I suppose truth is whatever you wish to believe is truth, isn't it?

is that so?

Perchance

The inspiration for that comment was <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=50&t=000457" target="_blank">this thread</a>, in which Taffy Lewis seemed to want to except perception of God from the standards that other kinds of perception have to meet.

Of course, I suppose that someone devoted to one religion might actually be more likely to reply, "Well, I've experienced my god because he's real. The others don't count (or are misled by Satan)."

-Perchance.

Pseudonymph

Was my earlier thread not really on topic? Sorry if it wasn't but no one seems interested in replying.