notMichaelJackson

Could someone give me a list of all the philosophical and scientific arguements that God does not exist or most likely does not exist? I would appriciate it.

I'm compiling a list of all the arguements for/against God's existance.

Shadowy Man

define "God".

diana

Follow the links at the top of the page of EoG. Or check your intro thread and click the links I gave you there. (I'm just too lazy to do it again.)

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Belem

As far as I know, there is not a single scientific argument against God. It is just common sense.

If you apply critical thinking, rational thinking then it is probably that you will realise that God has no basis to exist in a Universe where its presence is meaningless, pointless...

notMichaelJackson

There are as many definitions as there are theists. Let's give him the following definition- An entity that is not a physical being but is capable of altering the physical world.


I disagree. If you study astronomy/cosmology and evolution, you will see that the universe is extremely large with trillions of stars. The universe is also about 15 billion years old. There was plenty of time, space, and matter for all of it to come together at some point without a God. In other words, this could all just be chance. I hope it is not, but I would like to know.

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Shadowy Man

But that is not a scientific argument against the god you just defined.

emotional

What god do you want to disprove? The god of Deism, who set up all the universal parameters and left the whole thing running? I don't think that god is falsifiable. The god of theism, who controls fate and answers prayers and rewards and punishes and asks for submission? That's a different story. You have only to look at Nature to see that god does not exist.

For what it's worth, take a look at my website for a few attempts at disproof. Not that they would sway any theist, because they've already made up their minds about the matter...

Belem

SO WHAT?????

Do Astrology or Cosmology have a branch called "the case against God?".

God cannot be studied with a scientific method, because God is supernatural. It is like Carl Sagan´s dragon in his garage.

Science has never attempted to analise, to prove or disprove the existence of God.

Believers in this entity have the burden of proof.

Belem

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B. H. Manners

Welcome to the Secular Web notMichaelJackson.

I would start off with our Library section here. You'll find a lot of debates, philosophical discussions, and special articles written both pro and con regarding the existence of God.

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Wiploc

I just posted this in another thread:

There are an infinite number of possible gods. We certainly can't refute them all, or even a significant portion of them. So we can properly ignore all those that we don't find appealing, threatening, or entertaining.

If a god doesn't have ramifications, he is what technical philosophers call, "boring," and needn't be refuted because there is no difference between whether he exists or not. (Example: Invisible Pink Unicorns.)

If a god is probable and mundane, like the Egyptian pharaohs, then he may exist, but he isn't really what we --- these days --- mean by the word "god." (Examples: I have a friend who thinks hydrogen may be god, and another who thinks god may be the the universe. I am not concerned to refute them. And of course, there were the pharaohs. I believe in the pharaohs, but they just aren't what we're talking about here.)

If a god is weird and implausible enough to warrant the name of "god," then he is presumptively non-existent. (Example: Thor.)

If a god is self-contradictory, then he absolutely doesn't exist. (Example: Jehovah.)

This pretty much covers the field.

There is another way to approach the issue: I like to prove that the Christian god doesn't exist, and let the Christians stipulate that the others don't. This absolutely covers the field.
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