EasternGate

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Philosoft

Preaching =/ Philosophy.

Off to GRD...

Viti

More plagiarism. Have you no shame?

http://www.godandscience.org/apologe...arofdeath.html

catalyst

Is there some sort of rule about that here?

I certainly hope so, and should probably have piad more attention when reading the TOS, before anyone points that out.

I will be off to do that right now.

NonHomogenized

Oh, really? Then would you care to explain why I am neither worried about your "salvation" myth, nor am I afraid of dying?

And you assume that everyone is just like you? Ha!

I agree. Some people, however, are afraid of ceasing to exist; they have some sort of obsession with wanting to live forever, and so worry about silly things like that.

[quote] However, if Christianity is true, then those who do not believe should fear death, since the fate of believers and non-believers is quite different. [quote]

However, with no good reason to suppose it is, we should take such considerations with a grain (or truckload) of salt.

Or are a reflection of the fact that, were they not consistent, we would not be sitting there pondering it. Any life that could arise in such conditions would have to be very different from anything we think of as alive.

No, in order to be consistent and righteous, your god would have to take his own supposed advice: "judge not lest ye be judged". At least, I don't consider hypocrites consistent and righteous.

So... if your children misbehave, you should drown them? That's what god did in noah's time, according to your myth.

A more common myth is that god exists. Also, do you obey all of god's laws? Do you stone those who are drunk in public? Disobediant children? Do you kill or enslave all those who oppose you? If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the fate of your immortal soul may be imperiled, according to that great work of incoherence known as Wholly Babble... er... the holy bible. Whatever.

My spirits aren't eternal. They evaporate over time, and some get consumed, and go through processing of kidneys, rather than judgement of god. Where can I find these eternal spirits?

would this be before or after the parts about rabbits chewing cud, the Earth being immovable, bats being birds, and floods that never happened?

Wait, where does it say anything other than that there are beautiful things, and man understands that all beauty must fade (and that there are more things in earth and heaven, horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy: shakespeare was a much better writer than those who wrote the Babble)?

*shrug*I don't fear death, and I don't believe that god exists. Looks like I don't fit into your argument. Oh, and you ask if I'm ready to die? No: however, I am prepared to accept the eventuality, though, still having more to do, I suspect I will always struggle against dying just yet. But then, that's just because I'm too stubborn to just up and die without a struggle

Whatever. This is getting more preachy, and less amusing.

<snip a bunch of quotes from the babble; they are both irrelevant and unconvincing. Before you can present the bible is a valid authority, you have to demonstrate that god exists. As it has not been established as such, you cannot use it to prove that god exists.>

Viti

Yes, you can quote 15% or so of an article and link to the original. You cannot copy and paste an entire article without citation...it is a copyright violation

catalyst

Okay, thanks.

I am far too used to someone else owning the copyrights to everything I write, so I often do not give it a second thought.

Doctor X

Right . . . I have a question.

[No! STOP HIM!!!--Ed.]

Right, in the interest of sparing the Noble Readership from further misery--not to mention unjustified suffering . . . of a severe degree and extensive lenght . . . I will first see if EasternGate is willing to answer a simple question.

I await the response.

--J.D.

Ovazor

I'd be fairly certain that you're still very afraid of death, and therefore hide behind a comforting blanket of faith so you can pretend that you will not die but live forever.


Correct. Of course ceasing to exist is in no way desirable (meaning that if I had to choose I'd much rather go on living for now), but I don't fear death.

But those who do not believe in afterlife do not believe that their fate will be any different, so they have nothing to worry.

On the other hand, those who do believe in life after death could be terrified about the possibility that their faith was the wrong one and they have to suffer for that. What if you have to wait for a hundred years on the banks of styx just because the people who buried you didn't give you an obolus to pay Kharon? If you do believe in god(s) and are afraid of death (and I've known a fair number of people professing faith who neverthless fear death), there must be doubt in your faith.

Yet this would make it impossible for this god to be forgiving, compassionate or merciful, which qualities are nevertheless frequently attributed to the most popular deities.

DMB

But Philosoft, GRD is part of the philosophical fora. Do we have to have this sort of thing here?