NightWatchman

see for yourself




http://www.thecaveonline.com/APEH/mi...elosbrain.html


http://www.csd.k12.wi.us/sistine.htm


http://psych-www.colorado.edu/users/...helangelo.html




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beth

That's pretty neat. Thanks.

keyser_soze

Oy....that's one heck of a leap, but I admire your mental gymnastics! Break a leg?

Biff the unclean

Wow, the brain is an oval, sort of, and Gods cloak is an oval .. sort of. And if you put them in Photoshop and shrink the height a bit then they match.
Well, I'm convinced. Let me fall on my knees.

Eudaimonist

Interesting! Thanks! I'll never look at the Sistine Chapel the same way again.

Arikay

Wow, the drawings sorta, kinda, almost, match.

If you believe that then I have a cabinet door where the wood grain has trapped the image of a coyote spirit.

Amos

The "Creation of Man" should really be called the "Fall of Man" because the image of man is not inside the human skull. The aim here is to indicate that we are alienated from God in our ego identity and will not know who we are until we know the fullness of God in whom we are created and formed. So our return to Eden is to be fully one with God and become resident in the our own skull (Jesus' "upper room").

Meshberger's idea that the "open eyes of Adam suggest that he is already alive" indicates that human must have their eyes open to feel alive. So what the painting really shows is how the inner man is the cause for the open eyes of our ego identity which in response provides us with intelligence needed to survive. Remember here how the woman of the TOL saw that the TOK (Adam identity) was good for gaining wisdom, food and beauty and that is why his eyes are open).

I don't see how the painting can be misunderstood if it was commissioned by the Church and painted where it can be seen as the height of Catholicism.

Could it be that the Church has been right all along but we just don't understand?

tribalbeeyatch

Thanks for the links. I'm inclined to think that it's just a case of people seeing what they want to see, though. The "brain stem" and "pituitary", for example, are the legs of the cherebum, and it isn't clear why these should be included with the rest of the vaguely brain-shaped background other than that doing so seems to give the whole scene more of a brainlike quality. I say "seems to" because I don't particularly share that view. The brain stem is ridiculously undersized and the pituitary is ridiculously oversized.

Amos

Well maybe so, but we can't really have an angel with one big and one little foot. The main message is in the alienation of our human-ity (our ego identity) from our true man (=God identity) and this is already made by depicting Adam outside the skull of man.

tribalbeeyatch

Heh, you are one in a million, Amos! That said, it would be trivially easy to more closely represent the relative scales of the brain stem and the pituitary without distorting the angel either. Just have the "pituitary" leg bent such that its bulk overlaps the main part of the "brain".