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Grizzly · 07-19-2002, 04:05 PM

this is not the way to bring a community together. I'm am so sick of this "Christian Nation" bull....

<a href="http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/front/1500389" target="_blank">Disunity for all</a>

ashibaka · 07-19-2002, 04:34 PM

Johnson said the United States is a Christian nation. "We just hold to the view that our future is in Christ," he said. "I believe this is what our country was founded on."

Aziz Jamaluddin disagreed. "This is not a Christian nation," he said. "We have a Constitution that affords everybody the freedom of religion. This is a secular nation."

Christians: Let's have a Christian memorial of Sept. 11!
Jews &c: Why can't it be secular?
Christians: Go away, you pagan simpletons. This is a Christian country. If you don't like it, leave.

Maybe now they get the "under God" thing?

Starspun · 07-19-2002, 07:15 PM

I don't know if it will do anything to change their minds about 'In God', but, the non xtian religions will be more alert to the 'this is a christian nation' rhetoric.

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Johnson said the United States is a Christian nation. "We just hold to the view that our future is in Christ," he said. "I believe this is what our country was founded on."

Aziz Jamaluddin disagreed. "This is not a Christian nation," he said. "We have a Constitution that affords everybody the freedom of religion. This is a secular nation."

I don't believe we will have to worry about laws passing declaring the US a christian nation, though. That is, of course, if most of the Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, and the multitude of other religions feel as this guy does. I could be wrong though.

AzJeff · 07-19-2002, 08:59 PM

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"I don't believe that's being exclusionary; that's just our principles and values."

There's that good ole Xtian logic for ya.

Disgusting.

Oresta · 07-20-2002, 05:41 AM

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Johnson disagreed. "It shows diversity in the community, and we've got two great events going on and that represents the spirit of our country and that we have the ability to worship in different forms," he said.

This from the guy who highjacked a memorial event as the rightful property of his evangelical sect, and barred all other religious groups from participation.

Grizzly · 07-20-2002, 06:31 AM

I think the strangest part of this is that the organizers original intent was to be "inclusive". Apparently that meant inclusive of other evangelical religions, not just theirs. Sheesh. This is a very narrow definition of inclusion.

It reminds me of a scene from the Blues Brothers movie when they walked into Bob's Country Bunker and asked what kind of music got played there. The bartender said "Oh, we got both kinds - country AND western".

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ashibaka Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cloudy Water Posts: 443	Johnson said the United States is a Christian nation. "We just hold to the view that our future is in Christ," he said. "I believe this is what our country was founded on." Aziz Jamaluddin disagreed. "This is not a Christian nation," he said. "We have a Constitution that affords everybody the freedom of religion. This is a secular nation." Christians: Let's have a Christian memorial of Sept. 11! Jews &c: Why can't it be secular? Christians: Go away, you pagan simpletons. This is a Christian country. If you don't like it, leave. Maybe now they get the "under God" thing?

07-20-2002, 06:31 AM	#6
Grizzly Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 2,936	I think the strangest part of this is that the organizers original intent was to be "inclusive". Apparently that meant inclusive of other evangelical religions, not just theirs. Sheesh. This is a very narrow definition of inclusion. It reminds me of a scene from the Blues Brothers movie when they walked into Bob's Country Bunker and asked what kind of music got played there. The bartender said "Oh, we got both kinds - country AND western".

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