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03-19-2002, 04:10 PM

<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/03/19/asteroid.blindside/index.html" target="_blank">Stealth asteroid nearly blindsides Earth</a>

Here's what could happen if a big one hits:

Here's what happened when one of these things hit us about 50,000 years ago:

If God exists and loves us, why do these kinds of things happen? What kind of a father throws giant rocks at his children?

If God isn't "throwing" these things at us, who is? Satan? Someone else?

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]

bgponder · 03-19-2002, 05:02 PM

atheist_in_foxhole:

Super post!! I Congratulate you. I will pose some stuff in the hopes of baiting a few of the more thinking theists like Albert the Trad, Kenny, and others who may shed some light on this natural dilemma re God and rocks.
Maybe it is the case that:
1.) God gave man dominion over the earth, but not the heavens, so we will have to just deal with it.

2.) God is just testing us, like if we are thrust into the wild at the mercy of lions, tigers and bears, we should trust that God is doing the best thing, even if we get eaten.

3.) God is pissed now, was pissed 50,000 years ago when He hit the earth with the rock that formed the crater you showed, and we better damn well know it.

4.) It is just Nature, and there is no meddling-ass God, and we will have to deal with it.

5.) The Devildiddit; God would never do such things to His children. We will all be all right, even if a Big One hits, because God is more powerful than the Devil. Or maybe, all the truly righteous will be all right. Whomever that is.

6.) God misses sometimes, but when He hits the bull's-eye, it will be time for the AntiChrist to arise amidst the chaos. Then Jesus will come back. Or maybe, they will do another Kirk Cameron "Left Behind" after the Rapture that will take place just before the impact, and then Jesus will come back.

All comment, explanation, and clarification appreciated!!

Peace, Apocalyptic Cornbread Barry

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: bgponder ]

03-19-2002, 08:02 PM

Everyone should take a look at <a href="http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/World_Craters_Web/intromap.html" target="_blank">this map of impact craters.</a>

As you can see, meteors and other objects have hit every single continent. One hit as recently as 1908 (in Siberia), causing an explosion greater than the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan.

Theists, please explain!

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]

Jamie_L · 03-20-2002, 04:29 AM

It gets even better:

The Leonid meteor showers that we marvel at every year are caused by debris from a comet. We get this anually because the earth's orbit and this comet's orbit intersect: we pass through that orbital path every year. Some day, that comet is going to be there when we pass through (quite possibly not during the lifetime of our species, but still...) Is this the "intelligent design" of the universe so many theists speak of?

I guess it's intelligent if the divine creator wants to pumel us sometime in the future.

Jamie

Pennywise the clown · 03-20-2002, 04:37 AM

Of course, if it wasn't for Jupiter playing the roll of a giant catcher's mit, we'd be seeing a lot more impacts. Thankfully, either through "chance" or some other power, Jupiter happens to be in the right place.

If it was otherwise you would not be able to share your astute oberservations with us because we might not be here.

kctan · 03-20-2002, 05:39 AM

God is having some really serious constipation.

That's why the stools are "rock hard" & that they came only once in a while.

The fact that he's shooting his shit to earth is that in his relief at getting those shit out, he didn't notice where those are going.

Yep ! The universe is a great cosmic cesspool of god's constipated shit.

MWA

Pennywise the clown · 03-20-2002, 06:47 AM

Perhaps either God or you happen to be stuck in Freud's second stage of development: the anal stage.

Either that, or you BOTH are suffering from coprophilia. In that case I'd suggest a good psychotherapist.

sidewinder · 03-20-2002, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pennywise the clown:
Of course, if it wasn't for Jupiter playing the roll of a giant catcher's mit, we'd be seeing a lot more impacts. Thankfully, either through "chance" or some other power, Jupiter happens to be in the right place.

If it was otherwise you would not be able to share your astute oberservations with us because we might not be here.

I'd be interested in hearing an answer from a theist to the original question. Pennywise: if you are a theist, could you provide an answer to the original question? I hardly think that Jupiter taking most of the shots answers the question. If you say that, why wouldn't God just direct all the shots at Jupiter, instead of allowing only some to impact Earth? It gets back to the original question. Why at all?

Jayhawker Soule · 03-20-2002, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole:
Theists, please explain!

Too easy. They will no doubt focus on the ones that missed and mumble something about God's protection ...

03-20-2002, 07:10 AM

Bcponder: you missed the possibility that goddidit but that god has no special interest whatsoever in human beings or other inhabitants of the earth

03-19-2002, 04:10 PM	#1
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	If God exists, why is He throwing rocks at us? <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/03/19/asteroid.blindside/index.html" target="_blank">Stealth asteroid nearly blindsides Earth</a> Here's what could happen if a big one hits: Here's what happened when one of these things hit us about 50,000 years ago: If God exists and loves us, why do these kinds of things happen? What kind of a father throws giant rocks at his children? If God isn't "throwing" these things at us, who is? Satan? Someone else? [ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]</p>

03-19-2002, 05:02 PM	#2
bgponder Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 156	atheist_in_foxhole: Super post!! I Congratulate you. I will pose some stuff in the hopes of baiting a few of the more thinking theists like Albert the Trad, Kenny, and others who may shed some light on this natural dilemma re God and rocks. Maybe it is the case that: 1.) God gave man dominion over the earth, but not the heavens, so we will have to just deal with it. 2.) God is just testing us, like if we are thrust into the wild at the mercy of lions, tigers and bears, we should trust that God is doing the best thing, even if we get eaten. 3.) God is pissed now, was pissed 50,000 years ago when He hit the earth with the rock that formed the crater you showed, and we better damn well know it. 4.) It is just Nature, and there is no meddling-ass God, and we will have to deal with it. 5.) The Devildiddit; God would never do such things to His children. We will all be all right, even if a Big One hits, because God is more powerful than the Devil. Or maybe, all the truly righteous will be all right. Whomever that is. 6.) God misses sometimes, but when He hits the bull's-eye, it will be time for the AntiChrist to arise amidst the chaos. Then Jesus will come back. Or maybe, they will do another Kirk Cameron "Left Behind" after the Rapture that will take place just before the impact, and then Jesus will come back. All comment, explanation, and clarification appreciated!! Peace, Apocalyptic Cornbread Barry [ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: bgponder ]</p>

03-19-2002, 08:02 PM	#3
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	Everyone should take a look at <a href="http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/World_Craters_Web/intromap.html" target="_blank">this map of impact craters.</a> As you can see, meteors and other objects have hit every single continent. One hit as recently as 1908 (in Siberia), causing an explosion greater than the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan. Theists, please explain! [ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]</p>

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03-20-2002, 04:29 AM	#4
Jamie_L Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,565	It gets even better: The Leonid meteor showers that we marvel at every year are caused by debris from a comet. We get this anually because the earth's orbit and this comet's orbit intersect: we pass through that orbital path every year. Some day, that comet is going to be there when we pass through (quite possibly not during the lifetime of our species, but still...) Is this the "intelligent design" of the universe so many theists speak of? I guess it's intelligent if the divine creator wants to pumel us sometime in the future. Jamie

03-20-2002, 04:37 AM	#5
Pennywise the clown Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: "We all float down here!" Posts: 34	Of course, if it wasn't for Jupiter playing the roll of a giant catcher's mit, we'd be seeing a lot more impacts. Thankfully, either through "chance" or some other power, Jupiter happens to be in the right place. If it was otherwise you would not be able to share your astute oberservations with us because we might not be here.

03-20-2002, 05:39 AM	#6
kctan Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Heaven, just assasinated god Posts: 578	God is having some really serious constipation. That's why the stools are "rock hard" & that they came only once in a while. The fact that he's shooting his shit to earth is that in his relief at getting those shit out, he didn't notice where those are going. Yep ! The universe is a great cosmic cesspool of god's constipated shit. MWA

03-20-2002, 06:47 AM	#7
Pennywise the clown Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: "We all float down here!" Posts: 34	Perhaps either God or you happen to be stuck in Freud's second stage of development: the anal stage. Either that, or you BOTH are suffering from coprophilia. In that case I'd suggest a good psychotherapist.

03-20-2002, 07:10 AM	#10
DMB Guest Posts: n/a	Bcponder: you missed the possibility that goddidit but that god has no special interest whatsoever in human beings or other inhabitants of the earth

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