mark9950

Rev-14:3
And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

Rev-14:4
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

It seems to me the 144,000

not defiled by women
they are virgins(I assume as having no sex with women)
Redeemed from among men(no women mentioned here)
follow jesus whereever he goes

If these are christians it does not make sense,because most christians have had sex with women whether married or not.

Not defiled by women and virgin

Could these men be gay?

Secular Pinoy

Someone in another thread already asked you this, but why are you so fixated with homosexuality? Your two recent threads here concerns finding homosexual references in the bible.

mark9950

I do not remember.

Well the more I look into a gay jesus the more inferences there are I find.

The truth I am looking for so I have enough evidence to do battle with the fundy christians.When they come knocking at my door.

Whether these 144,000 are gay I do not know,but the inference is that I cant rule it out.

There are very few if any male virgins unless you include other cultures or countries in the world.

These cannot be christians from any christian denomination or sect as it says.

Celsus

Off to ~Elsewhere~

Joel

MichieC

Do you think Jesus was gay?

mark9950

Of what I have read in many sources of jesus possible homosexuality I tend to believe that the possibility should not be ruled out.

Look at the 144,000 they are male virgens that never were defiled by women and they followed the lamb.

It is not clear to me that these men were or are gay,but the life of jesus having a man name john as a beloved as the american translation has it surely makes me wander to the point that if jesus existed he was either wierd, gay,or effiminate in his mannerisms.

Maybe it was their culture or customs of that time,but if God wrote the bible than God would have wrote it differently so that the possibility of jesus being wierd,gay or effinate was not there.

Jesus gay or effiminate yes

Jesus having sex with anyone I would not rule out the possibility with the missing verse in the secret mark.Where jesus was ministering to a young boy alone about the kingdom of god.

You may think that I am obsessed with this gay issue,but I believed the traditional jesus and found out many things that traditional christianity did not want me to know.

Before I gave up christianity when my church officially ex-communicated me for asking questions.

Darth Dane

Maybe Jesus was bi-sexual.

Love is Love is Love

Love between men is also Love, and as a preacher of Love, this Love surely is included?



Choose Love before you choose anything else?






DD - Love & Laughter

MichieC

Well I'm a Christian myself.

I'm not well versed in apologetics but find your theory interesting.

Even though I have read Scripture, I never took it as a homosexual thing but as a customs type of thing.

Men in the Middle East, even to this day show much more affection for each other than Western men.

Darth Dane

If Jesus = God, and humans was made in the image of God, then God loves both men and women equally.

Whether or not Jesus actully got poked or did some poking, is irrelevant, he must have Loved both women and men.

All are equal to the eye of God






DD - Love & Laughter

Kenneth

Defiled by women?

Defile me, defile me, o please defile me!

I read this joke on Reader's Digest: There was a man who went to the doctor about a dream he was having. He said, "Doc, I've been having terrible nightmare for quite some time now. I dreamt that I was struggling against a mob of women who wanted to tear my clothe apart. " The doctor asked, "you want me to..."

"oh yes, Doctor," he said interrupting the doctor, "I want you to cut my arms off."