Oolon Colluphid

Thanks for that Linux. Just one bit of clarification for now... you start with a geological timescale for the earth, but are these 'days' of creation -- plants one day, birds another, etc -- approximately 24 hours, or a poetic of day meaning something like 'age'?

Cheers, Oolon

LinuxPup

I'm not making additions or subtractions. It's not enough to take the Bible literally, you must also take it consistantly, and if you do so, you will find biblical problems with a canopy theory.

Yup. There is suffecient biblical evidence to believe these days are not 24 hour periods, but rather long periods of time. In fact, Psalm 104:27-30 clues in on this "progessive creationism."

Scigirl: Check out this site if you will...

<a href="http://www.reasons.org/resources/faf/93q4faf/93q4news.html" target="_blank">http://www.reasons.org/resources/faf/93q4faf/93q4news.html</a>

Also, <a href="http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/testablecreationsummary.html" target="_blank">http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/testablecreationsummary.html</a>

I like Reasons to Believe, because they are a group of scientists who have developed a *TESTABLE* (tada) Creation Model... that is, one that can make predictions (and does so). If your going to slam creationism, you might as well go after this organization, as they're making the most progress in the field... so investigate creationism, just as I'm investigating atheism.

ps418

LP:
Yup. There is suffecient biblical evidence to believe these days are not 24 hour periods, but rather long periods of time. In fact, Psalm 104:27-30 clues in on this "progessive creationism."

As I said before, Psalm 104 does not support what you're saying, and even if it did, that would be irrelevant, since the relevant dispute is what the author of Genesis 1-2 intended. And based on the textual evidence I presented our previous thread, the evidence is overwhelming that the author of Genesis 1-2 intended literal 24 days.

ps418

LP:
The 5th day God created sea animals and birds, and on the 6th day God created more animals, and finally man.

This is quite vague. Would you list the order of creation as best as you can determine it from Genesis? Then we can test this sequence by comparing it to the fossil record. Thanks in advance.

Asha'man

I'm sorry, LinuxPup, I read your links, and don't exactly understand the "Testable" portion of the theory. Can you clarify a prediction made by this theory, and how exactly someone will look for evidence that supports or refutes that prediction? (Obviously, predicting anything that is already supported by evidence is meaningless, so we need a prediction about evidence that hasn't been found yet.) Who is conducting this search, and how are they proceding?

I see a list of "successful" predictions, but since this theory is actually newer than the evidence, I don't count those as predictions. Anyone can make a theory that fits old data.

Also, can you point to a prediction made by this theory that is verifiably different from a prediction made by evolution? After all, if both theories make the same predictions, there is really no reason to switch theories, is there?