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Old 01-16-2002, 04:46 AM   #1
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Question Where are all the creationists?

Where have they all gone? I've been lurking here for a couple of months, and we really seem to be in a dry period here. Normally I see one or two trying to rant away...

Lurking creationists, declare yourselves!
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There is a guy called "Downsindrone" in Existance of God who is a creationist (even used the "tornado in a junkyard" argument. We need to get him down here...
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<strong>There is a guy called "Downsindrone" in Existance of God who is a creationist (even used the "tornado in a junkyard" argument. We need to get him down here...</strong>
Righty-ho...

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Old 01-16-2002, 07:12 AM   #4
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<strong>Where have they all gone? I've been lurking here for a couple of months, and we really seem to be in a dry period here. Normally I see one or two trying to rant away...</strong>
I think this is the time of year when all
the Sunday School teachers take a break, and are
busy making up new class schedules. As such, there
are no current assignments for students to go
out and try to convert us heathens. Nor are there
any coffee get togethers for them to tell tales
of how they baffled the evo's on II singlehandedly...

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Old 01-16-2002, 08:22 AM   #5
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Where have they all gone? I've been lurking here for a couple of months, and we really seem to be in a dry period here.
The participation on these boards by creationists does not proceed according to the assumptions of phyletic gradualism. We are currently undergoing a period of stasis, during which the creationists are situationally confined to allopatricicity; that is, they are "living in another homeland." Although, without molecular data obtained over successive generations, it is difficult to predict exactly when, according to Gould and Eldredge, we should expect the emergence of new creationists by the time their isolation has rendered them incapable of interbreeding with the denizens of our particular locality.

I suggest patience, since this process may take thousands, or even hundred of thousands of years, which of course, from an evolutionary perspective, is practically instantaneous.
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Old 01-16-2002, 08:45 AM   #6
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It would be great if they had finally been rendered extinct due to our persitant efforts, and the world could be rid of this plauge once and for all. But due to the enormous selection pressure on their population, any mutations in their own arguments that are resistant to our antibotics tend to spread like wild-fire. Though they may find it currently difficult to exploit this particular niche, the huge ammount of resources that can be obtained by arguing creationism are such that any sucessful mutant, even if only mildly sucessful, will grow and divide rapidly. It is usually best for us then to attack any particular infestation with a variety of methods, since few individuals will be resistant to all of them. However, by overusing many of our most potent weapons, we encourage the evolution of new mutant strains that require yet again new weapons to be defeated.

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The end of creationism comes when almost nobody wants it any more. Maybe the occasional oddball spouts it, but nobody else cares to hear it. As long as many want to do it, and are willing to donate funds and lend cheer-leading support, the cause goes on. I suppose one of them might say the same thing about naturalism, but less "naturally", since creationists don't fit in socially very well in academia.

All the ideological warfare/disease control metaphors fail in this arena, because it is, after all, just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk and more talk. Everybody lives to "fight" another day. It is all about who out-bamboozles whom.
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The participation on these boards by creationists does not proceed according to the assumptions of phyletic gradualism. We are currently undergoing a period of stasis, during which the creationists are situationally confined to allopatricicity; </strong>
Ah, shall we call it... Punctuated Creationism?

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The participation on these boards by creationists does not proceed according to the assumptions of phyletic gradualism. We are currently undergoing a period of stasis, during which the creationists are situationally confined to allopatricicity; that is, they are "living in another homeland." Although, without molecular data obtained over successive generations, it is difficult to predict exactly when, according to Gould and Eldredge, we should expect the emergence of new creationists by the time their isolation has rendered them incapable of interbreeding with the denizens of our particular locality.

I suggest patience, since this process may take thousands, or even hundred of thousands of years, which of course, from an evolutionary perspective, is practically instantaneous
I know its kindofa sarcastic insult against my beliefs but i must admit to a very hearty and sincere LOL!!!
I'm active in these forums, but unfortuatly I do not feel qualified to post anything other than questions. the suggested reading of the talk origins website will keep me busy on the bathroom throne for quite some time.
however I do post on the other forums, so be on the lookout if yer itchin for good old fashioned disagreement.
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Hello,

I'm a creationist... not a young earth creationist, but a creationist nontheless. So flame away...
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