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repoman · 03-08-2002, 08:27 AM

Remember in the mid to late 80's when you couldn't get away from it? Well, why is it not in the news anymore? has is been debunked adn I missed it? Or is it so firmly established as to be passe?

Also what about Nuke power, baby Harbor seals, the whales and other topics that are ignored now?

Corwin · 03-08-2002, 08:47 AM

Easy.... environmental regs have mostly worked.

You still find acid rain here and there... but since Ronald 'Never Saw An Environmental Law I Couldn't Gut' Reagan left office, things have gotten better.

Corwin · 03-08-2002, 09:55 AM

Either that... or....

Two words: Jerry.... Garcia.

scombrid · 03-08-2002, 11:26 AM

Acid rain is still very much a problem. It has just lost luster with the media. Many sections of the Appalachian mountains are still being stressed by acid rain. Every summer the weather station at Big Meadows in Shenandoah National Park records rain events with pH at or below 4. Several streams in the southern district of the park lie over siliciclastic bedrock which has very little buffering capacity. We found pH to average between 4.5 and 5 on some of those streams. Those streams had few fish and the fish that were there were in poor health. Aquatic insect life was also nearly non-existant.

<a href="http://www.selcga.org/res_news_2001-10-23.shtml" target="_blank">acid rain in VA and beyond</a>

<a href="http://www.riverdeep.net/current/2001/04/043001_polluted.jhtml" target="_blank">more bad air </a>

<a href="http://va.water.usgs.gov/projects/va127.html" target="_blank">mo acid in SNP</a>

<a href="http://www.epa.gov/region07/programs/artd/air/acidrain/acidrn2.htm" target="_blank">epa acid</a>

<a href="http://www.epa.gov/oar/oaqps/peg_caa/pegcaa05.html" target="_blank">plain english guide to the CAA</a>

Corwin · 03-08-2002, 11:30 AM

Well the Repubs are still worshipping Reagan, and they're still trying to roll back what little environmental progress we've made.

You do have to admit that it's less of a problem than it used to be. We still have work to do on it, but we've come a long way since the 70's and 80's.

Francois Tremblay · 03-08-2002, 08:28 PM

It was probably YAES (Yet Another Eco-Scare) that went the way of Malthaus and global freezing/warming...

Godless Dave · 03-18-2002, 11:07 AM

It's real. Try catching fish in the Adirondacks sometime.

trunks2k · 03-18-2002, 07:23 PM

"...Acid Rain is a thing of the past
Too many possible causes
And too little significance for our modern thinking public.
Besides industrial manufactoting is at an all time low anywyas
Who need's those narrow minded laboroers?
Too many mouths to feed,
and too much burden on the payroll"

-"State of the end of the millenium address" (Bad Religion)

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repoman Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,280	Whatever happened to Acid Rain? Remember in the mid to late 80's when you couldn't get away from it? Well, why is it not in the news anymore? has is been debunked adn I missed it? Or is it so firmly established as to be passe? Also what about Nuke power, baby Harbor seals, the whales and other topics that are ignored now?

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03-08-2002, 08:47 AM	#2
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Easy.... environmental regs have mostly worked. You still find acid rain here and there... but since Ronald 'Never Saw An Environmental Law I Couldn't Gut' Reagan left office, things have gotten better.

03-08-2002, 09:55 AM	#3
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Either that... or.... Two words: Jerry.... Garcia.

03-08-2002, 11:26 AM	#4
scombrid Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,759	Acid rain is still very much a problem. It has just lost luster with the media. Many sections of the Appalachian mountains are still being stressed by acid rain. Every summer the weather station at Big Meadows in Shenandoah National Park records rain events with pH at or below 4. Several streams in the southern district of the park lie over siliciclastic bedrock which has very little buffering capacity. We found pH to average between 4.5 and 5 on some of those streams. Those streams had few fish and the fish that were there were in poor health. Aquatic insect life was also nearly non-existant. <a href="http://www.selcga.org/res_news_2001-10-23.shtml" target="_blank">acid rain in VA and beyond</a> <a href="http://www.riverdeep.net/current/2001/04/043001_polluted.jhtml" target="_blank">more bad air </a> <a href="http://va.water.usgs.gov/projects/va127.html" target="_blank">mo acid in SNP</a> <a href="http://www.epa.gov/region07/programs/artd/air/acidrain/acidrn2.htm" target="_blank">epa acid</a> <a href="http://www.epa.gov/oar/oaqps/peg_caa/pegcaa05.html" target="_blank">plain english guide to the CAA</a>

03-08-2002, 11:30 AM	#5
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Well the Repubs are still worshipping Reagan, and they're still trying to roll back what little environmental progress we've made. You do have to admit that it's less of a problem than it used to be. We still have work to do on it, but we've come a long way since the 70's and 80's.

03-08-2002, 08:28 PM	#6
Francois Tremblay Banned Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 876	It was probably YAES (Yet Another Eco-Scare) that went the way of Malthaus and global freezing/warming...

03-18-2002, 11:07 AM	#7
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	It's real. Try catching fish in the Adirondacks sometime.

03-18-2002, 07:23 PM	#8
trunks2k Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 6,997	"...Acid Rain is a thing of the past Too many possible causes And too little significance for our modern thinking public. Besides industrial manufactoting is at an all time low anywyas Who need's those narrow minded laboroers? Too many mouths to feed, and too much burden on the payroll" -"State of the end of the millenium address" (Bad Religion)

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