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Old 08-20-2003, 12:24 AM   #1
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Question Getting weird emails...

Hey people, I have been getting a whole shitload of failure notice emails from mailer daemons and mail system administrators. The weird thing is, I have not sent out any eamils for about a week and I recognize none of the adresses that these messages clame I sent emails to. A number of these emails have attatchments. Now is something fucked up with my hotmail account, is this a new way that asshat 1337 h4X0rs and scriptkiddies are using to get me to download virii, or is this just anoter evil trick that the spammers are using to get me on their mailing lists


Here's what one of these thing looks like:

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From :
[email protected]

To :
[email protected]

Subject :
failure notice

Date :
20 Aug 2003 07:12:42 -0000

Attachment : thank_you.pif (99k)
Reply Reply All Forward Delete Put in Folder...InboxSent MessagesDraftsTrash Can Printer Friendly Version

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail1.chek.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[email protected]>:
Sorry, your intended recipient has too much mail stored in their mailbox.
Your message totalled 102494 bytes, which would bring them over quota.
However a smaller message might go through should you wish to
inform the person you tried to email.

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.



From :
<[email protected]>

To :
<[email protected]>

Subject :
Thank you!

Date :
Wed, 20 Aug 2003 0:27:17 --0700

Attachment : thank_you.pif (99k)
Please see the attached file for details.

I seriously and most humbly apologize for using leetspeak in this post.
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Old 08-20-2003, 12:38 AM   #2
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sounds to me like someone is using your address as their "Sender" header for spam emails, and you're copping the flak for it.
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You might have the win32 klez virus... it makes you send attachments that are about 100kb to other people... or it could be another email related virus... anyway, you should download the latest updates for your virus scanning program and do a full scan of your computer.
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Old 08-20-2003, 11:03 AM   #4
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I don't think you can get klez on a hotmail account, can you?

Anyway, like ju'iblex says, it does sound like you're just in the From: line on some spam. Happens to me all the time. There's not a hell of a lot you can do realistically.

If you do decide to track them down, make sure any attachments you open aren't executables.
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Old 08-20-2003, 11:14 AM   #5
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Hi Johnathan.....

I found this website for you on the Norton Securites page. It sounds like you have the sobig virus. Anyway, if you want to read more about it, here's the page:

Norton AntiVirus
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You don't have the Sobig.F worm. But someone who does have it, has your email address in their addressbook, or a cached webpage in their temp folder, or in some other file on their computer. The worm found it, and is spoofing your email address to spread itself around.

This situation is not helped by mail administrators who have their anti-virus send warnings back to the sender that their message was blocked. People should know by now that the apparent sender is not likely to be the actual sender, and they should turn these features off.

The messages from mailer-daemon, however, are proper and not really avoidable. If the worm picks a bad email address to try and send itself to, it'll bounce, and whoever was spoofed will get the bounce message. You can't really disable that without getting rid of a useful fuction, namely failed delivery notification. Not having that would suck worse than getting all these notices for emails you didn't send.
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I don't think you can get klez on a hotmail account, can you?....
If you use outlook to check your hotmail account (like I do) then you can.
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If you use outlook to check your hotmail account (like I do) then you can.
Well, if you not only use both Outlook and Hotmail, but you use them TOGETHER, well, you deserve whatever you get!

(Just kidding. I just dig playing the smugly superior anti-Microsoft guy from time to time. Thank you for your kind indulgence.)
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lisarea:
I signed up with hotmail before it was taken over by Microsoft though! And outlook express is just the easiest way for me to deal with emails. (I can't be bothered finding something else) I'm trying to avoid supporting their .net thing though... I might switch to yahoo in the future... (not sure if they have free pop3 type access) hopefully Microsoft won't take them over...
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Does Hotmail have pop3 access? I haven't really checked out my hotmail account recently, it gets too much spam. My Yahoo account receives far fewer ones, so it's ok. There was free pop3 access, but they started charging people for it ($ 19+ a year I think) over a year ago.
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