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pz · 12-01-2002, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by E_muse:

So, if you conceived of an intelligent creator greater than God, then the new being would be, by definition, God.

Please, anyone who wants to respond to E_muse's latest off-topic entry in this thread, take it <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=001741" target="_blank">here</a>.

E_muse, get with the program, please. You are rather obviously trying to sidetrack this specific thread; I'll take that as a concession that you have no evidence for intelligent design. This latest entry doesn't even belong in this forum -- you can take that to <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=50" target="_blank">EoG</a>.

E_muse · 12-01-2002, 10:44 AM

Go <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=001741" target="_blank">here</a> if you want to address E_muse's comments.

E_muse, I'm getting a bit exasperated with you.

[ December 01, 2002: Message edited by: pz ]

pz · 12-01-2002, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by E_muse:

Here I agree with you. If ID hypothesis is to be taken seriously then it must do more than attack evolution and come up with some descriptions of its own.

Last warning: if you cannot abide by the request of the OP, I'm going to consider you to be intentionally trying to derail this discussion, and will simply close it. The comment above is what is supposed to be addressed here, and you haven't contributed one word of substance to that subject.

E_muse · 12-01-2002, 10:57 AM

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E_muse, get with the program, please. You are rather obviously trying to sidetrack this specific thread; I'll take that as a concession that you have no evidence for intelligent design. This latest entry doesn't even belong in this forum -- you can take that to EoG

Indeed it doesn't. But are you saying that, when people post off topic comments (like the one I was responding to) that people are not free to respond?

Clutch · 12-01-2002, 11:02 AM

There seem to be two possibilities as far as explaining the origins of life and speciation.

1. It is explained by the operations of blue-nosed wights.

2. It is explained by the operations of things other than blue-nosed wights.

Since these exhaust the possibilities, problems and open questions with respect to explanations of Type 2 are, therefore, evidence to the effect that an explanation of Type 1 is correct.

Of course, there are many, many problems and open questions with respect to purported explanations of Type 2! Hence there is considerable evidence to the effect that a Type 1 explanation is correct -- in other words, there is substantial grounds to conclude that blue-nosed wights caused life and speciation. I assume the logic is clear to everyone.

pz · 12-01-2002, 11:08 AM

Never mind.

Kudos to Bubba, who tried to implement a constructive idea, and redirect the discussion to focus on the evidence.

Raspberries to everyone who couldn't understand the OP, and went wandering off in various pointless philosophical directions.

The bottom line is that in the all-too-short time this thread was available, no creationist or IDist was able to muster a coherent defense of Intelligent Design. Game over.

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E_muse Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: na Posts: 329	Go <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=001741" target="_blank">here</a> if you want to address E_muse's comments. E_muse, I'm getting a bit exasperated with you. [ December 01, 2002: Message edited by: pz ]</p>

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12-01-2002, 11:02 AM	#35
Clutch Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 3,751	There seem to be two possibilities as far as explaining the origins of life and speciation. 1. It is explained by the operations of blue-nosed wights. 2. It is explained by the operations of things other than blue-nosed wights. Since these exhaust the possibilities, problems and open questions with respect to explanations of Type 2 are, therefore, evidence to the effect that an explanation of Type 1 is correct. Of course, there are many, many problems and open questions with respect to purported explanations of Type 2! Hence there is considerable evidence to the effect that a Type 1 explanation is correct -- in other words, there is substantial grounds to conclude that blue-nosed wights caused life and speciation. I assume the logic is clear to everyone.

12-01-2002, 11:08 AM	#36
pz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Morris, MN Posts: 3,341	Never mind. Kudos to Bubba, who tried to implement a constructive idea, and redirect the discussion to focus on the evidence. Raspberries to everyone who couldn't understand the OP, and went wandering off in various pointless philosophical directions. The bottom line is that in the all-too-short time this thread was available, no creationist or IDist was able to muster a coherent defense of Intelligent Design. Game over.

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