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Toto · 02-18-2002, 04:28 PM

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22380-2002Feb16.html" target="_blank">Ralph Reed offered to deliver Christian conservatives' votes and lobbying efforts for Enron's energy deregulation effort for $380,000</a>.

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Reed's memo said his organization had a record of harnessing the "minority community" and the "faith community" to support his clients.

Do conservative Christian politicans have an ounce of Christianity in them, or is it all just a thin veneer over their capitalist greed?

The Resistance · 02-18-2002, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Toto:

Do conservative Christian politicans have an ounce of Christianity in them, or is it all just a thin veneer over their capitalist greed?

That last one. Jesus was the ultimate commie. Not that's the reason I'm not a Christian.

kingcrim99 · 02-18-2002, 10:01 PM

While my own viewpoints on economic issues are somewhat right of center, as far as I can tell those "free market" viewpoints are coat-tail riders. The economic ideas are simply absorbed in tandem with the social ones, even at the expense of what should be Christian normative-economic values.

Not that we atheists are immune to hypocrisy, but this is a big problem with the Christian right. <Political Economy Dork>They should all read some R.H. Tawney, in order to disabuse them of the notion that Christianity = "laissez faire capitalism".</Political Economy Dork>

sidewinder · 02-19-2002, 07:49 AM

Toto: Jesus would do nothing because he lived 2000 years ago in a world completely different from ours. Jesus doesn't provide answers for many of the problems we face in our present age because his teaching was only for the people in his time.

ohwilleke · 02-19-2002, 02:29 PM

Middle Eastern oil was a very big deal back in Biblical times, in fact, there is a well known December religious holiday devoted to it. God produces it on demand. O.K., so it was lamp oil. Same difference.

Zachar · 02-20-2002, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by The Resistance:


That last one. Jesus was the ultimate commie. Not that's the reason I'm not a Christian.

I agree...
Like my HS government teacher said:

From each, according to ability.
To each, according to need.

Sounds remarkably like communism (the economic philosophy, not the government type) and remarkably like Jesus' policies with his disciples.

[ February 20, 2002: Message edited by: Zachar ]

Jamie_L · 02-20-2002, 04:36 AM

I would think Jesus would do nothing. After all, regulation of energy is Caesar's business. Whatever he wants to do is fine. Just worship God in your closet, submit to all the horrors of this world and its earthly governments, and you'll be rewarded in the next.

Or some such nonsense.

Jamie

Undercurrent · 02-20-2002, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Zachar:
[QB]From each, according to ability.
To each, according to need.

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luke 3:11
He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.

m.

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02-18-2002, 10:01 PM	#3
kingcrim99 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: WashDC area Posts: 25	While my own viewpoints on economic issues are somewhat right of center, as far as I can tell those "free market" viewpoints are coat-tail riders. The economic ideas are simply absorbed in tandem with the social ones, even at the expense of what should be Christian normative-economic values. Not that we atheists are immune to hypocrisy, but this is a big problem with the Christian right. <Political Economy Dork>They should all read some R.H. Tawney, in order to disabuse them of the notion that Christianity = "laissez faire capitalism".</Political Economy Dork>

02-19-2002, 07:49 AM	#4
sidewinder Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: omnipresent Posts: 234	Toto: Jesus would do nothing because he lived 2000 years ago in a world completely different from ours. Jesus doesn't provide answers for many of the problems we face in our present age because his teaching was only for the people in his time.

02-19-2002, 02:29 PM	#5
ohwilleke Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA Posts: 4,834	Middle Eastern oil was a very big deal back in Biblical times, in fact, there is a well known December religious holiday devoted to it. God produces it on demand. O.K., so it was lamp oil. Same difference.

02-20-2002, 04:36 AM	#7
Jamie_L Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,565	I would think Jesus would do nothing. After all, regulation of energy is Caesar's business. Whatever he wants to do is fine. Just worship God in your closet, submit to all the horrors of this world and its earthly governments, and you'll be rewarded in the next. Or some such nonsense. Jamie

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