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Old 09-18-2002, 06:22 AM   #141
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OK, Amie, fair enough. First question, which someone asked before:

Did the flood really cover the entire earth, to the tops of the 'highest mountains' as the bible claims? If so, that means an additional 5 miles or so of water above sea level. Where did this water come from? And after the flood, where did this water go?

Second question: How did the koalas get to the ark (Turkey or nearby) from Australia, and after the flood, how did they get back to Australia?

Third question, and this ought to be right down your alley, if you're a biology teacher: there are species of freshwater fish in Australia that are only found in one or two lakes, and nowhere else (I'll provide sources for this if you'd like). These fish even have their own parasites that have evolved with them, that aren't found anywhere else. These fish cannot live in briny water, as would be found if the earth flooded with fresh water mixed with salty ocean waters. So how did these fish survive the flood?

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Old 09-18-2002, 06:29 AM   #142
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This should be fun....
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Old 09-18-2002, 06:36 AM   #143
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Amie-
I certainly had no intention of insulting you if that's where the reference is coming from. I have to admit I'm impressed you're posting this long, being outnumbered as you are. If there had been more Creationists (and I don't know if you are) I would have written a general post aimed at any one of them. I wasn't even aware of a "Creationist" belief until I happened to come across that Alan Ask's site while looking up evidence of a comet or asteroid being responsible for the Great Chicago Fire...how the search engine pulled THAT up I'll never know. But here be I. I still say kudos to you for sticking in there; where are the other Creationists to make it less one-sided?
The reason I asked so many questions, newbie aside, is if there are timetables outlining an evolutionary progress, where is a Creationist's version of geological/biological processes? (not meant to be a challenge--I really want to know!) With all the amazing qualities the Flood had, I'd like to see how those currents could do some of the things they are reported to have done.

And here I thought multiregionalism and out-of-Africa were contentious subjects.
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Old 09-18-2002, 06:37 AM   #144
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Hi Gooch's dad,
your user name sounds very familiar to me, are you ever at the AN? I am one of about 5 theists there. Or were you ever at CF?
ok on to your questions:
yes I believe it was a global flood covering the entire earth. The problem is we can only use our understanding as we know it. It is not natural for us to think of things that can defy the laws of physics. For this I am inclined to use a link on geology to get further into it however I can do this without one as well. Now regarding the flood, to handle the capacity of water the earth would have been shaken off of its core foundation, there would be a separation in plates and the geological formation probably was not the same.(I will have to locate my text on geology) and with the extra weight of the water the oceans would in fact sink, pushing the landmasses up (I cant recall the scientific term for this) and there would have been plenty of room for adaptations of water. I should have quoted you, I cant read your post here for some reason, give me a moment and I'll answer your second part.
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Hi Pop,
no you were not insulting me at all, I was referring to others. Let me get to Gooch's dad and then I'll answer you
I am just as happy to be here on my own but thank you for the sentiments, I dont mind being outnumbered, the posters here are harmless and I kinda love the little buggers...
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kosh:
<strong>This should be fun....</strong>
yes and I see one of my "favorite students" has joined in
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Old 09-18-2002, 06:52 AM   #147
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We're 6 pages in.

Could we, like, hurry it up?

I've strapped myself in.

Now go ahead.

Prove to us that 'The Flood' happened.

[ September 18, 2002: Message edited by: seanie ]</p>
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Old 09-18-2002, 06:53 AM   #148
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Hi Gooch's dad,
I believe that the kangaroos hopped there and the koalas...
no, I am kidding. Good question now we know that the Ark was in Turkey and we know that according to the scripture there was 2 of every kind, the thing is, geographically speaking the world was very different as we know it. We are assuming the the geography of the world is how we know it now and that could cause some problems. We need to be open to the possibility that our world now as we know it is dramatically different in the formations. We can find fossils on nearly every continent of animals that were assumed to have evolved from one place. Also the bible states that God sent the animals, we have no idea how he got them there. And I am curious, since you brought up the animals, Gooch's dad? Is hibernation completely out of the question in this discussion since I will have to at some point make a reference to the animals on the Ark. We do know that they were ALL airbreathing and someone earlier mentioned hostile animals, I'll get into that later.
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Old 09-18-2002, 07:00 AM   #149
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But with 2 of every kind, isn't there a problem with post-Flood sacrificing?
So I was wondering, if Adam named the creatures of the earth, at a low estimate of 1 billion to have ever lived, that's a mighty tall order @ 31 million seconds a year.
If that's true about the billion, granted most are bugs, but can you imagine the scene over Noah's bow? With many large herbivores having populations over a million....that's a lot of rotten meat. At least the bacteria had an easy go of it disembarking.
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Seanie,
there will be no hurry on this. I am taking my time on this. I will have to.
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