Bree

Branching off of Can Jesus kick you out of heaven?.

Have at it, folks.

Badfish

Not once your there.

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by Badfish
Not once your there.

Care to explain Ephesians 2:9 then, over here?

Mageth

Weren't Satan and his minions "there"?

And can one do evil in heaven? If not then is there no free will in heaven?

Tenek

I guess that means we can all finally tell God that He's been a real asshole to all the people suffering in Hell for all eternity. No consequences! Woohoo!

AJ113

Well how else could you be kicked out of heaven? Once you're NOT there?

Did you simply mean "No?"

Badfish

Hi Tenek, where have you been hiding?

First you gotta get there, and if you conform to the prescribed path to salvation, you will not have this hatred motivated train of thought.

Mageth

So our thoughts will be controlled in heaven? No bad thoughts allowed?

Badfish

That's actually a good theological question. In Revelation 21 and 22 one sees heaven described as a place with no more tears, no more suffering, nothing unclean. From this description, I see heaven as a place without sin. If there is no sin, then perhaps there is no will to sin.

Either there is no free will in heaven or at the very least the definition of free will will be different in heaven than it is on earth.

From the biblical description of heaven that all will be in perfect obedience to God, therefore the human, earthly definition of free will may not apply in heaven.

Can you get kicked out? I don't see any scriptural evidence to support that we could.

Satan and angels are different beings, so we cannot compare Satans fall to the fall of man.

Mageth

Well, that's all fine and dandy, but it makes heaven sound like a Stepford Wives experience or some such dull existence.