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Philosophical Objections to Intelligent Design:
Response to Critics


Michael J. Behe
Discovery Institute
July 31, 2000

I. Is Intelligent Design Falsifiable?
Some reviewers of Darwin’s Black Box (Behe 1996) have raised philosophical objections to intelligent design. I will discuss several of these over the next few sections, beginning with the question of falsifiability. To decide whether, or by what evidence, it is falsifiable, one first has to be sure what is meant by “intelligent design.” By that phrase someone might mean that the laws of nature themselves are designed to produce life and the complex systems that undergird it. In fact, something like that position has been taken by the physicist Paul Davies and the geneticist Michael Denton in their recent books, respectively, The Fifth Miracle: The Search for the Origin and Meaning of Life (Davies 1999) and Nature’s Destiny: How the Laws of Biology Reveal Purpose in the Universe. (Denton 1998) That stance also seems to pass muster with the National Academy of Sciences:

Many religious persons, including many scientists, hold that God created the universe and the various processes driving physical and biological evolution and that these processes then resulted in the creation of galaxies, our solar system, and life on Earth. This belief, which sometimes is termed “theistic evolution,” is not in disagreement with scientific explanations of evolution. Indeed, it reflects the remarkable and inspiring character of the physical universe revealed by [science]. (National Academy of Sciences 1999, 7)

Behe: In such a view even if we observe new complex systems being produced by selection pressure in the wild or in the laboratory, design would not be falsified because it is considered to be built into natural laws. Without commenting on the merits of the position, let me just say that that is not the meaning I assign to the phrase. By “intelligent design” I mean to imply design beyond the laws of nature. That is, taking the laws of nature as given, are their other reasons for concluding that life and its component systems have been intentionally arranged? In my book, and in this essay, whenever I refer to intelligent design (ID) I mean this stronger sense of design-beyond-laws. Virtually all academic critics of my book have taken the phrase in the strong sense I meant it.
Rw: In as much as Mr. Behe has elected to assign a philosophical explanation to a scientific roadblock, the door has been swung wide for critical review of his assignment without taking anything away from the notably significant questions his research and observations have illuminated in respect to Darwinian models of evolution. Thus his assignment becomes, by its very nature, philosophical and open to valid philosophical critique in order to ascertain the validity of his premise of ID. Mr. Behe’s assignment is an interpretation of data. Interpretations that veer radically from mainstream scientific modeling that have produced extensive predictability and continue to do so, begs closer examination.

As Mr. Behe has boldly claimed, his interpretation of the data posits an intelligent designer whose designing capabilities defy current understanding of nature and natural physical laws. That his research has brought us to a puzzle Darwinian models appear currently unable to solve, we cannot deny. That his research effectively cancels Darwinian modeling out of the game he cannot assert with any accuracy, nor likely would. So basically, all that can accurately be said about his findings, in light of overwhelming data that supports Darwinian models of evolution, is that his findings mark a breaking point in the systematic tracing of life’s origins via Darwinian models. At this point, conceding that Darwinian models have, to date, been unable to duplicate a functioning irreducibly complex mechanism is all that we can conclude. We shall, however, follow Mr. Behe’s reasoning closely as he takes us from Darwin’s black box to his assignment of an intelligent designer, marking every step of his journey to be sure.

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Behe: In the strong sense ID is no longer approved by the National Academy, for a specific reason: “ntelligent design . . . [is] not science because [it is] not testable by the methods of science.” (National Academy of Sciences 1999, 25)

Behe: In his review of Darwin’s Black Box for Nature, Jerry Coyne, professor of evolutionary biology at the University of Chicago, explains why he also thinks intelligent design is unfalsifiable.

If one accepts Behe’s idea that both evolution and creation can operate together, and that the Designer’s goals are unfathomable, then one confronts an airtight theory that can’t be proved wrong. I can imagine evidence that would falsify evolution (a hominid fossil in the Precambrian would do nicely), but none that could falsify Behe’s composite theory. Even if, after immense effort, we are able to understand the evolution of a complex biochemical pathway, Behe could simply claim that evidence for design resides in the other unexplained pathways. Because we will never explain everything, there will always be evidence for design. This regressive ad hoc creationism may seem clever, but it is certainly not science. (Coyne 1996)

Behe: Coyne’s conclusion that design is unfalsifiable, however, seems to be at odds with the arguments of other reviewers of my book. Clearly, Russell Doolittle (Doolittle 1997), Kenneth Miller (Miller 1999), and others have advanced scientific arguments aimed at falsifying ID. (See my articles on blood clotting and the “acid test” on this web site.) If the results with knock-out mice (Bugge et al. 1996) had been as Doolittle first thought, or if Barry Hall’s work (Hall 1999) had indeed shown what Miller implied, then they correctly believed my claims about irreducible complexity would have suffered quite a blow. And since my claim for intelligent design requires that no unintelligent process be sufficient to produce such irreducibly complex systems, then the plausibility of ID would suffer enormously. Other scientists, including those on the National Academy of Science’s Steering Committee on Science and Creationism, in commenting on my book have also pointed to physical evidence (such as the similar structures of hemoglobin and myoglobin) which they think shows that irreducibly complex biochemical systems can be produced by natural selection:

“However, structures and processes that are claimed to be ‘irreducibly’ complex typically are not on closer inspection.” (National Academy of Sciences 1999, p. 22)

Behe: Now, one can’t have it both ways. One can’t say both that ID is unfalsifiable (or untestable) and that there is evidence against it. Either it is unfalsifiable and floats serenely beyond experimental reproach, or it can be criticized on the basis of our observations and is therefore testable. The fact that critical reviewers advance scientific arguments against ID (whether successfully or not) shows that intelligent design is indeed falsifiable.
rw: While I agree with Mr. Behe that his assignment, based on verifiable research, is indeed falsifiable, it appears that Mr. Behe is missing the more significant point made by his colleagues at the National Academy, notably, how does one test ID? Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that everyone currently working in the field of molecular evolutionary biology accept Mr. Behe’s premise of ID. What next? Does the evidence lead to an identification of this designer? To a purpose or a conclusion? Where then does science go from here? Certainly demonstrating an irreducibly complex organism evolving by natural mechanisms falsifies ID but what does accepting Mr. Behe’s premise as truth produce? Does it not effectively end Mr. Behe’s need for any further scientific investigation? What can be known about this designer from Mr. Behe’s research? That it is intelligent? That it had some unspecific interest in inserting irreducibly complex organisms into the ecology of our planet? It looks to me, and I’m sure to many of his colleagues, that inserting an intelligent designer into the mix at this point is to end the research. Wouldn’t accepting this premise as true serve as a catalyst to lower the bar in scientific research such that scientists could effectively fill in the gaps with an intelligent designer?

In the absence of any concrete evidence for an identification of this designer or its purpose, assigning such an explanation to Mr.Behe’s research, without a healthy dose of skepticism, could become a bottomless pit. It is one thing to assign a hypothetical; it is another to show where the hypothesis will lead. Mr.Behe appears not to have given this much consideration in his defense of the assignment. Clearly there are some un-knowns floating around amid the debate Behe’s research has engendered, but I suspect his assignment to an ID has generated more attention than his research. Mr. Behe could have reserved judgment, merely pointing out to his colleagues that his research has exposed a serious flaw in Darwinian models at the point of irreducible complexity. That is why, in my opinion, critical examination of his premises are warranted.

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Behe: In fact, my argument for intelligent design is open to direct experimental rebuttal. Here is a thought experiment that makes the point clear. In Darwin’s Black Box (Behe 1996) I claimed that the bacterial flagellum was irreducibly complex and so required deliberate intelligent design. The flip side of this claim is that the flagellum can’t be produced by natural selection acting on random mutation, or any other unintelligent process.

To falsify such a claim, a scientist could go into the laboratory, place a bacterial species lacking a flagellum under some selective pressure (for mobility, say), grow it for ten thousand generations, and see if a flagellum--or any equally complex system--was produced. If that happened, my claims would be neatly disproven.(1)
rw: Yes, it is abundantly clear that his premise is falsifiable, but is it verifiable? That is the crucial test, is it not? Simply showing that current unintelligent models and methods are insufficient, as yet, to falsify the claim doesn’t constitute verification of the claim as truth. All that has been substantiated thusfar is that current Darwinian models cannot reproduce the phenomenon. And this may change. Beyond this, to assume the hypothesis, how is it tested? How do we verify that his assignment is the only true interpretation?

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Behe: How about Professor Coyne’s concern that, if one system were shown to be the result of natural selection, proponents of ID could just claim that some other system was designed? I think the objection has little force. If natural selection were shown to be capable of producing a system of a certain degree of complexity, then the assumption would be that it could produce any other system of an equal or lesser degree of complexity. If Coyne demonstrated that the flagellum (which requires approximately forty gene products) could be produced by selection, I would be rather foolish to then assert that the blood clotting system (which consists of about twenty proteins) required intelligent design.
rw: While I think Mr. Behe has adequately responded to Professor Coyne’s concerns, he still has a way to go to get his premise off the ground. As I said earlier, what’s to prevent other scientists, when reaching a seeming impasse in their investigations, from inserting ID into the gap? Where does it get established as a viable theory? How do you test it? Based on what criteria? What is known or can be known about this mysterious designer unless one then makes the jump into theological issues, (assuming that is where this is headed).

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Behe: Let’s turn the tables and ask, how could one falsify the claim that, say, the bacterial flagellum was produced by Darwinian processes? (Professor Coyne’s remarks about a Precambrian fossil hominid are irrelevant since I dispute the mechanism of natural selection, not common descent. I would no more expect to find a fossil hominid out of sequence than he would.)

If a scientist went into the laboratory and grew a flagellum-less bacterial species under selective pressure for many generations and nothing much happened, would Darwinists be convinced that natural selection is incapable of producing a flagellum? I doubt it. It could always be claimed that the selective pressure wasn’t the right one, or that we started with the wrong bacterial species, and so on. Even if the experiment were repeated many times under different conditions and always gave a negative result, I suspect many Darwinists would not conclude that the claim of its Darwinian evolution was falsified. Of complex biochemical systems Coyne himself writes “we may forever be unable to envisage the first proto-pathways. It is not valid, however, to assume that, because one man cannot imagine such pathways, they could not have existed.” (Coyne 1996)

If a person accepts Darwinian paths which are not only unseen, but which we may be forever unable to envisage, then it is effectively impossible to make him think he is wrong.
rw: And again, Mr. Behe’s reasoning is sound but not conclusive. How or why does he assume that the only alternative is intelligent design? Perhaps Darwinian methodology is not the mechanism of irreducible complexity. Perhaps reduction isn’t necessary. But where is the justification for making the leap to intelligent design? Where does that lead science? What explanatory value can be derived from the premise apropos to molecular organic mechanisms? Mr. Behe has taken the stance, “what else could it be?”

Could it be that the flagellum initially evolved as a separate distinct organism that attached itself to a bacterium and became, via symbiosis, one distinct organism? The point being, have all avenues of investigation been exhausted or has Mr. Behe assigned an interpretive prematurely?

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Behe: Kenneth Miller announced an “acid test” for the ability of natural selection to produce irreducible complexity. He then decided that the test was passed, and unhesitatingly proclaimed intelligent design falsified (“Behe is wrong”; Miller 1999, 147).

But if, as it certainly seems to me, E. coli actually fails the lactose-system “acid test,” would Miller consider Darwinism to be falsified? Almost certainly not. He would surely say that the experiment started with the wrong bacterial species, used the wrong selective pressure, and so on. So it turns out that his “acid test” was not a test of Darwinism; it tested only intelligent design. The same one-way testing was employed by Russell Doolittle. He pointed to the results of Bugge et al. (1996) to argue against intelligent design. But when the results turned out to be the opposite of what he had originally thought, Professor Doolittle did not abandon Darwinism.
rw: What Mr. Behe must surely realize, as does Kenneth Miller, is the fact that just because a particular method of testing fails does not negate the Darwinian evolutionary model. Miller would be justified in chalking it up to improper values in the experiment because enough experiments using Darwinian evolutionary models have succeeded to support his assumption and prevent him from throwing out the baby with the bath water. The fact that Hall’s research did produce a modest degree of substitution in the lactose, irrespective of the conditions, does demonstrate that substitution is possible naturally, or it cannot be entirely ruled out.

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Behe: It seems then, perhaps counterintuitively to some, that intelligent design is quite susceptible to falsification, at least on the points under discussion. Darwinism, on the other hand, seems quite impervious to falsification. The reason for that can be seen when we examine the basic claims of the two ideas with regard to a particular biochemical system like, say, the bacterial flagellum. The claim of intelligent design is that “No unintelligent process could produce this system.” The claim of Darwinism is that “Some unintelligent process (involving natural selection and random mutation) could produce this system.” To falsify the first claim, one need only show that at least one unintelligent process could produce the system. To falsify the second claim, one would have to show the system could not have been formed by any of a potentially infinite number of possible unintelligent processes, which is effectively impossible to do.
rw: Can it be truthfully stated, from a basis of Darwinism’s inability to account for the mechanism, that NO unintelligent process could account for it? Is this a classic case of using a negative to prove a negative? Since there currently exists negative data on this intelligent designer, his purpose or methods, how can the fact that Darwinism’s negative effect prove a negative? Intelligent designer, in and of itself, draws a blank, an un-intelligible non-conceptual mystery unless the designer is itself identified or explained in some meaningful way other than as a reference to intelligence. This is very near the slippery slope of argument from ignorance.

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Behe: I think Professor Coyne and the National Academy of Sciences have it exactly backwards. A strong point of intelligent design is its vulnerability to falsification. (Indeed, some of my religious critics dislike intelligent design theory precisely because they worry that it will be falsified, and thus theology will appear to suffer another blow from science. See, for example, (Flietstra 1998).) A weak point of Darwinian theory is its resistance to falsification. What experimental evidence could possibly be found that would falsify the contention that complex molecular machines evolved by a Darwinian mechanism?
rw: And a weak point of intelligent design is its vulnerability to verification, identification, and classification. Mr. Behe’s irreducibility does indeed cast a shadow on Darwinian lower level evolutionary modeling but does complexity automatically lead to intelligent design? This is the question and subject of philosophical discussion. It seems to Mr. Behe that it’s an either/or scenario that is, in itself, a classic symptom of theistic mentality and casts a much larger academic and professional shadow on his assignment than on his research.

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Behe: II. What Is “Irreducible Complexity” and What Does It Signify?

Some reviewers have criticized the concept of irreducible complexity. In Boston Review University of Rochester evolutionary biologist H. Allen Orr agrees that many biological systems are “irreducibly complex,” but argues that Darwinian evolution can, at least in theory, directly account for them. However, as I will show, his argument depends on changing the definition of irreducible complexity, which obscures the difficulty.

In his review Orr initially seems to clearly understand what I meant by “irreducible complexity” (quoted earlier). Of the example I used in Darwin’s Black Box he writes: “A mousetrap has a clear function (crushing mice) and is made of several parts (a platform, a spring, a bar that does the crushing). If any of these parts is removed, the trap doesn’t work. Hence it’s irreducibly complex.” (Orr 1996) So far, so good. Nonetheless, later in the review he seems to lose hold of the concept:

An irreducibly complex system can be built gradually by adding parts that, while initially just advantageous, become--because of later changes--essential. The logic is very simple. Some part (A) initially does some job (and not very well, perhaps). Another part (B) later gets added because it helps A. This new part isn’t essential, it merely improves things. But later on, A (or something else) may change in such a way that B now becomes indispensable. This process continues as further parts get folded into the system. And at the end of the day, many parts may all be required. (Orr 1996)

Behe: Now, how can we square this paragraph with his initial agreement that if any part of a mousetrap is removed, it doesn’t work? Thinking of the mousetrap example, what would correspond to “Some part (A)” that “initially does some job”? In fact, the whole point of the mousetrap example was to show that there is no “part (A)” that will initially do the job. There is no “part (B)” that helps gradually improve “part (A).” A gradual addition of parts is not possible for the mousetrap example (or at least it is very far from obvious that it is possible). Orr later gives a biological example of what he has in mind
Rw: What appears not to be obvious is how an intelligent designer would have, in designing the mousetrap, had to have assembled the parts and during the process of assembly, the mousetrap could have had no functional purpose until all parts were assembled and accounted for. I see no reason why a flagellum couldn’t have been assembled by natural processes and had a different functional purpose to the bacteria until all the parts were in place. In other words, a mousetrap is recognized as a mousetrap due to its function and purpose. But before it was a mousetrap it was a pile of parts awaiting assembly. It could not have functioned as a mousetrap until after assembly, but this doesn’t mean it couldn’t have had some other function during the assembly. It seems Mr. Behe is looking at the functionality of the flagellum and assuming that it had to have sprung into existence for that particular function. Why couldn’t it have begun as nothing more than an anchor used to fasten the bacterium to the surface of another organism? It is apparent that without a flagellum the bacteria would be unable to move and could only drift about. The most economical way to prevent drifting is with an anchor and then even more preferable to being anchored is self-propelled motion. If you reduce the function the organism loses its claim to irreducibility.

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Behe: Orr’s Example:The transformation of air bladders into lungs that allowed animals to breathe atmospheric oxygen was initially just advantageous: such beasts could explore open niches--like dry land--that were unavailable to their lung-less peers. But as evolution built on this adaptation (modifying limbs for walking, for instance), we grew thoroughly terrestrial and lungs, consequently, are no longer luxuries--they are essential. The punch-line is, I think, obvious: although this process is thoroughly Darwinian, we are often left with a system that is irreducibly complex. (Orr 1996)

Behe: In Orr’s example, however, what is the irreducibly complex system? Is it the swim bladder? The lung? The whole organism? What is the function of the system? Is it “swimming,” “breathing,” “living,” or something else? If we assume he meant that the irreducible system is, say, the lung, can the lung be considered “a single system,” as my definition requires (Behe 1996, p. 39)? What are the parts of the lung without which it will stop working, like a mousetrap without a spring? What is “part (A)” and what is “part (B)”? None of these things is clear at all--certainly not as clear as the parts and function of a mousetrap.
Rw: The analogy is the same as the example I gave above and does work. Orr begins with an air bladder, clearly something with a different function than a lung. Just as clear is how un-complex an air bladder is compared to a lung. Only if Mr. Behe remains focused on the flagellums current function as a motor device for the bacterium does the irreducibly complex designation work. If you reduce the complexity of the function you can reduce the mechanism and consequently the number of simultaneously required proteins and Darwinism has a valid role once again. As Mr. Behe has to continue referring to the “working” or function of his single system it should be clear just how much is invested in this function being the initial purpose of selection for the mechanism.

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Behe: Let me preface my remaining remarks on this subject by acknowledging that it is often notoriously difficult to rigorously define a concept, as exemplified by the problems encountered in trying to define “science,” “life,” or “species.”

Furthermore, I am no philosopher; my end purpose is not to come up with a string of words that completely defines the phrase “irreducible complexity.” Rather, my purpose is to focus attention on a class of biochemical systems that pose a particular challenge to Darwinian evolution. The examples I gave in my book--a mousetrap, cilium, clotting cascade, and so on--clearly show the necessity for some systems of having a number of discrete parts working together on a single function. The examples, I think, better get across the concept of irreducible complexity than does the definition I offered (Behe 1996, 39), although I think the definition I gave does an adequate job.

With those comments in mind, it can be seen that Orr simply switched concepts in mid-review, as shown by his conflicting remarks quoted above. He jumped from my idea of irreducible complexity to a hazy concept that can perhaps be paraphrased as, “if you remove this part, the organism will eventually die.” I’m happy to agree for purposes of discussion that a class of biological phenomena exists which are required for life and which can be changed gradually by natural selection, perhaps even including the swim bladder/lungs Orr mentions (although it is not nearly so obvious as he assumes it to be). It’s just that they are not the same types of things as, nor do they somehow obviate the problem of, irreducibly complex systems like mousetraps and cilia. If they were, then Orr could have explained them away as easily as he does swim bladders and lungs. (After all, lung tissue contains cilia plus many, many other components; Orr should thus find it easier to explain cilia alone, rather than cilia-plus-other-components.) Implicitly changing the definition of irreducible complexity, as Orr did, does not tell us how the blood clotting cascade or the bacterial flagellum could have been produced. On the contrary, it distracts our attention from those features of the systems that make them recalcitrant to Darwinian explanation.
Rw: While it is not apparent precisely how Orr intended his example to be interpreted, what is apparent is Mr. Behe’s bedazzlement with functions. In this respect Orr’s example serves admirably to demonstrate how a simpler system selected for one function can be built upon and gradually come to serve another. From this perspective Behe’s irreducibly complex system, whose definition depends as much on function as number and relation of parts, losses it’s distinguishing assignment when the function is itself reduced to facilitate evolutionary selection of parts.

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Behe: Other scientific reviewers have made arguments similar to Orr’s which depend on implied definitions of irreducible complexity different from what I used. Writing in the Wall Street Journal Paul Gross compares biochemical systems to cities, where features can be added over time. (Gross 1996) But the analogy is poorly chosen because no city completely stops working when a part is removed, as does a mousetrap or cilium. In Boston Review Douglas Futuyma writes:
In mammals, successive duplications of the beta gene gave rise to the gamma and epsilon chains, which characterize the hemoglobin of the fetus and early embryo respectively, and enhance uptake of oxygen from the mother. Thus a succession of gene duplications, widely spaced through evolutionary time, has led to the “irreducibly complex” system of respiratory proteins in mammals. (Futuyma 1997)


Behe: But the several hemoglobins that Futuyma calls the “‘irreducibly complex’ system of respiratory proteins” in fact do not constitute an irreducibly complex system in my sense of the term. They do not interact with each other, as do the parts of a mousetrap or clotting cascade. They go their separate ways, and for the most part aren’t even present at the same time in the organism. Like Allen Orr, Futuyma implicitly switches the meaning of “irreducibly complex.” Unfortunately, that does not solve the problem I pointed out, but only obscures it. (As an aside, it is difficult to understand what Futuyma intends by the quotation marks around the phrase irreducibly complex. He can’t be quoting me; I never used the term in connection with hemoglobin--quite the opposite. He may intend them to be taken as “scare quotes,” to warn the reader to take the phrase with a grain of salt. But since he is the one who decided to use the term in conjunction with hemoglobins and then to argue against it, the effect is that of setting up a straw man.)
Rw: All of which demonstrates another inherent weakness in the designation of a particular system as irreducibly complex. All one has to do to make Futuyma’s example analogous is to reverse the results of interaction and, as stated earlier, if the original selection of parts served a different purpose, requiring fewer parts, then all the parts needn’t have been selected simultaneously. Just because a flagellum would cease to function as a motor if a part is removed doesn’t mean it began as a flagellum that functions as a motor drive. As stated earlier it could have been initially selected and have served a much simpler purpose as nothing more than an anchor until evolutionary time coupled with variants in duplication and environmental pressure eventually led to the purpose it now serves. If this is possible then intelligent design is not necessary.

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Behe: A different question about irreducible complexity is asked by David Ussery on his web site. He notes that, whereas a bacterial flagellum in E. coli requires about 40 different proteins, in H. pylori only 33 are required. Since fewer proteins are required, how can the flagellum be irreducibly complex? Two responses can be made. First, some systems may have parts that are necessary for a function, plus other parts that, while useful, are not absolutely required. Although one can remove the radio from a car and the car will still work, one can’t remove the battery or some other parts and have a working car. Ussery himself seems to recognize this when he writes “I would readily admit that there is STILL the problem of the evolution of the ‘minimal flagellum,’” (Ussery 1999) but he hopes gene duplication will explain that. Second, one must be careful not to identify one protein with one “part” of a biochemical machine. For example, genes coding for two proteins in one organism may be joined into a single gene in another. A single protein in one organism may be doing the jobs of several polypeptides in another. Or two proteins may combine to do one job (an example is the α- and β-subunits of tubulin, which together make microtubules, a “part” of the eukaryotic cilium).
rw: Here again, Mr. Behe is focused upon function and appears to miss the significance of his focus. If an irreducibly complex system can function on fewer proteins this could be a prime indication that its current function was not always its current function. In his analogy Mr. Behe neglects to mention that one can build a radio and later build a car to place it in. Once again we have reasonable doubt as to the irreducibility factor which then casts reasonable doubt on the complexity factor and renders the assignment of an intelligent designer superfluous to Darwinian methodology.

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Behe: Several reviewers have questioned whether irreducible complexity is necessarily a hallmark of intelligent design. James Shapiro, who has worked on adaptive mutations, writes in the Boston Review (Shapiro 1997) of “some developments in contemporary life science that suggest shortcomings in orthodox evolutionary theory” while arguing for “a growing convergence between biology and information science which offers the potential for scientific investigation of possible intelligent cellular action in evolution.” Thus Shapiro appears to think that irreducibly complex biochemical structures might be explained in a non-Darwinian fashion without invoking intelligence beyond the cells themselves. In Biology and Philosophy Bruce Weber (1999) writes that the work of Stuart Kauffman and others on self-organizing phenomena “disrupts the dichotomy Behe has set up of selection or design.” Most explicitly, Shanks and Joplin argue in Philosophy of Science that self-organizing phenomena such as the Belousov-Zhabotinsky reaction demonstrate that irreducible complexity is not necessarily a pointer to intelligent design. (Shanks and Joplin 1999) I have responded to Shanks and Joplin’s argument in a separate paper. (Behe 2000)

Briefly, complexity is a quantitative feature; systems can be more or less complex. Although it produces some complexity, the self-organizing behavior so far observed in the physical world has not produced complexity and specificity comparable to irreducibly complex biochemical systems. There is currently little reason to think that self-organizing behavior can explain biochemical systems such as the bacterial flagellum or blood clotting cascade.
The underlying point of all these criticisms that needs to be addressed, I think, is that it is possible future work might show irreducible complexity to be explainable by some unintelligent process (although not necessarily a Darwinian one). And on that point I agree the critics are entirely correct. I acknowledge that I cannot rule out the possibility future work might explain irreducibly complex biochemical systems without the need to invoke intelligent design, as I stated in Darwin’s Black Box. (Behe 1996, 203-204) I agree I cannot prove that studies of self-organization will not eventually show it to be capable of much more than we know now. Nor can I definitively say that Professor Shapiro’s ideas about self-designing cells might not eventually prove true, or that currently unknown theories might prevail. But the inability to guarantee the future course of science is common to everyone, not just those who are supportive of intelligent design. For example, no one can warrant that the shortcomings of self-organization will not be exacerbated by future research, rather than overcome, or that even more difficulties for natural selection will not become apparent.

I agree with the commonsense point that no one can predict the future of science. I strongly disagree with the contention that, because we can’t guarantee the success of intelligent design theory, it can be dismissed, or should not be pursued. If science operated in such a manner, no theory would ever be investigated, because no theory is guaranteed success forever. Indeed, if one ignores a hypothesis because it may one day be demonstrated to be incorrect, then one paradoxically takes unfalsifiability to be a necessary trait of a scientific theory. Although philosophers of science have debated whether falsifiability is a requirement of a scientific theory, no one to my knowledge has argued that unfalsifiability is a necessary mark.
Because no one can see the future, science has to navigate by the data it has in hand. Currently there is only one phenomenon that has demonstrated the ability to produce irreducible complexity, and that is the action of an intelligent agent. It seems to me that that alone justifies pursuing a hypothesis of intelligent design in biochemistry. In his recent book Tower of Babel: The Evidence against the New Creationism, however, philosopher of science Robert Pennock argues that science should avoid a theory of intelligent design because it must of necessity embrace “methodological naturalism.” (Pennock 1999) I have responded to Pennock elsewhere. (Behe 1999)

Briefly, science should follow the data wherever it appears to lead, without preconditions. Further, the question of the identity of the designer remains open (see below) -- just as the cause of the Big Bang has been open for decades. Thus, science can pursue theories with extra-scientific implications (such as the Big Bang(2) or intelligent design) as far as it can, using its own proper methods.
Rw: While this is a very generous and open minded view it still begs the question of how to pursue a hypothesis of intelligent design in any discipline, not just biological chemistry. While I agree that science should leave no stone un-turned one is left wondering what hypothetical means can be devised to pursue this hypothesis. Aside from the obvious difficulties in substantiating a claim that must be, as a matter of principle, interpreted into the research, aside from the already overwhelming success of Darwinian models, one can’t help but wonder the eventual outcome of pursuing this hypothetical assignment and the effect it could have on other areas of research where similar interpretations could be made before the alternatives have been thoroughly exhausted.

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Behe: III. Can We--May We--Detect Design in the Cell?

Several reviewers have argued against the legitimacy of reasoning to a conclusion of intelligent design based on biochemical evidence. In the same review discussed above Allen Orr raises an intriguing question of how we apprehend design. He writes:

We know that there are people who make things like mousetraps. (I’m not being facetious here--I’m utterly serious.) When choosing between the design and Darwinian hypotheses, we find design plausible for mousetraps only because we have independent knowledge that there are creatures called humans who construct all variety of mechanical contraptions; if we didn’t, the existence of mousetraps would pose a legitimate scientific problem. (Orr 1997)

So, Orr says, we know mousetraps are designed because we have seen them being designed by humans, but we have not seen irreducibly complex biochemical systems being designed, so we can’t conclude they were.
Rw: And we know that a mousetrap has a specific function; to kill mice. But we also know that we can take parts of the mousetrap and design other, less complicated mechanisms from the plate or the spring or the hammer. If this is true, then all we have to do to avoid the trap of irreducible complexity is to examine the system for earlier, less complicated functions requiring fewer parts, from which we can then devise a Darwinian model of developed selection. We cannot assume that a modern flagellum was always so modern based on functionality.

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Behe: Although he makes an interesting point, I think his reasoning is incorrect. Consider the SETI project (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), in which scientists scan space for radio waves that might have been sent by aliens. Those scientists believe that they can distinguish a designed radio wave (one carrying a message) from the background radio noise of space. However, we have never observed space aliens sending radio messages; we have never observed aliens at all. Nonetheless, SETI workers, funded for years by the federal government, are confident that they can detect intelligently-designed phenomena, even if they don’t know who produced them.
rw: Then are we take this to mean a hypothesis based on intelligent design would constitute and confine the research to aliens as the intelligent designers?

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Behe: The relevance to intelligent design in biochemistry is plain. Design is evident in the designed system itself, rather than in pre-knowledge of who the designer is. Even if the designer is an entity quite unlike ourselves, we can still reach a conclusion of design if the designed system has distinguishing traits (such as irreducible complexity) that we know require intelligent arrangement. (One formal analysis of how we come to a conclusion of design is presented by William Dembski in his recent monograph, The Design Inference (Dembski 1998).)

We can probe Orr’s reasoning further by asking how we know that something was intelligently designed even if it indeed resulted from human activity. After all, humans engage in all sorts of activities which we would not ascribe to intelligence. For example, in walking through the woods a person might crush plants by his footsteps, accidentally break tree branches and so on. Why do we not ascribe those marks to purposeful activity? On the other hand, when we see a small snare (made of sticks and vines) in the woods, obviously designed to catch a rabbit, why do we unhesitatingly conclude the parts of the snare were purposely arranged by an intelligent agent? Why do we apprehend purpose in the snare but not in the tracks? As Thomas Reid argued in response to the skepticism of David Hume, intelligence is apprehended only by its effects; we cannot directly observe intelligence. (Dembski 1999) We know humans are intelligent by their outward actions. And we discriminate intelligent from non-intelligent human actions by external evidence. Intelligence, human or not, is evident only in its effects.
rw: Were I to stumble upon such a rabbit trap I would, indeed, ascribe it to sentient design but I would hesitate to ascribe it a level of intelligence equivalent to that being posited by Mr. Behe. For instance, I can think of an even more intelligent method of catching a rabbit, it's called a shotgun and a hunting dog. One of the inherent problems with behe's assignment of intelligent design to the findings of his research is that it doesn't explain why an intelligent designer would choose to design a motor for a flagellum rather than something more obvious and necessary such as a natural means of prohibiting the flow of sperm when pregnancy isn't the desired effect? Ridiculous as that sounds it just accentuates the problem with Behe's assignment.

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Behe: Michael Ruse in Boston Review raises another objection, saying that scientists qua scientists simply can’t appeal to design.
Design is not something you add to science as an equal--miracles or molecules, take your pick. Design is an interpretation which makes some kind of overall metaphysical or theological sense of experience. (Ruse 1997)


Behe: Contrary to Ruse’s argument, however, many scientists already appeal to design. I mentioned the SETI program above; clearly those scientists think they can detect design (and nonhuman design at that.) Forensic scientists routinely make decisions of whether a death was designed (murder) or an accident. Archaeologists decide whether a stone is a designed artifact or just a chance shape. Cryptologists try to distinguish a coded message from random noise. It seems unlikely that any of those scientists view their work as trying to make “metaphysical or theological sense of experience.” They are doing ordinary science.
Rw: Yes, and each example refers us to a known or suspected known. Aliens are not on the same level as a theologically derived god. Forensics experts are looking for human design, as are archaeologists and cryptologists. What particular designation or defining characteristics are Mr. Behe assigning to his designer? He keeps reverting back to theological issues such that we get the impression, though he doesn’t come out and say it, that he is advocating a designer god. This is much different than aliens or humans since aliens and humans are not attributed with all the speculative properties of a god. If, and or when, Mr. Behe decides to identify what or who he has in mind when he refers us to this intelligent designer, then it can be determined if Mr. Behe intends to form a hypothesis allowing us to gain any further ground from this premise.

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Behe: Ruse probably meant that scientists can’t specifically appeal to God or the supernatural. Evolutionary biologist Douglas Futuyma echoes Ruse’s sentiment with rousing rhetoric:
When scientists invoke miracles, they cease to practice science . . . . Behe, claiming a miracle in every molecule, would urge us to admit the defeat of reason, to despair of understanding, to rest content in ignorance. Even as biology daily grows in knowledge and insight, Behe counsels us to just give up. (Futuyma 1997)

Behe: In speaking of “miracles”--relying for rhetorical effect on that word’s pejorative connotations when used in a scientific context--Ruse and Futuyma are ascribing to me a position I was scrupulous in my book to avoid. Although I acknowledged that most people (including myself) will attribute the design to God--based in part on other, non-scientific judgments they have made--I did not claim that the biochemical evidence leads ineluctably to a conclusion about who the designer is. In fact, I directly said that, from a scientific point of view, the question remains open. (Behe 1996, 245-250) In doing so I was not being coy, but only limiting my claims to what I think the evidence will support. To illustrate, Francis Crick has famously suggested that life on earth may have been deliberately seeded by space aliens (Crick and Orgel 1973). If Crick said he thought that the clotting cascade was designed by aliens, I could not point to a biochemical feature of that system to show he was wrong. The biochemical evidence strongly indicates design, but does not show who the designer was.
Rw: Unfortunately, none of the above responds to Futuyma’s or Ruse’s justifiable concerns. In addition, acknowledging that the evidence doesn’t allow you to scientifically identify your assignment only exacerbates the obfuscation. Mr. Behe is saying, in effect, “I have chosen the Christian God but you can pick and choose from among the many hundreds of others or even aliens if you prefer. If this is not a diversion from genuine science I don’t see how it can maintain any integrity in the lab.

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Behe: I should add that, even if one does think the designer is God, subscribing to a theory of intelligent design does not necessarily commit one to “miracles.” At least no more than thinking that the laws of nature were designed by God--a view, as we’ve seen, condoned by the National Academy of Sciences (National Academy of Sciences 1999). In either case one could hold that the information for the subsequent unfolding of life was present at the very start of the universe, with no subsequent “intervention” required from outside of nature. In one case, the information is present just in general laws. In the other case, in addition to general laws, information is present in other factors too. The difference might boil down simply to the question of whether there was more or less explicit design information present at the beginning--hardly a point of principle.
rw: Yes but this doesn’t line up with Mr. Behe’s earlier contention where he specifically states that he launches his assignment forth on a very specific position:

In my book, and in this essay, whenever I refer to intelligent design (ID) I mean this stronger sense of design-beyond-laws.

So it appears, unless I am misunderstanding something here, that Mr.Behe is now waffling on his initial position at the outset of this article. Or leaving himself some wiggle room.

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Behe: While we’re on the subject of God, another point should be made: A number of prominent scientists, some of whom fault me for suggesting design, have themselves argued for atheistic conclusions based on biological data. For example, Professor Futuyma has written: “Some shrink from the conclusion that the human species was not designed, has no purpose, and is the product of mere mechanical mechanisms--but this seems to be the message of evolution.” (Futuyma 1982) And Russell Doolittle remarks concerning the blood clotting cascade: “. . . no Creator would have designed such a circuitous and contrived system.” (Doolittle 1997) It is rather disingenuous, however, for those who use biological data to argue that life shows no evidence of design, to complain when others use biological evidence to argue the opposing view.
rw: This is true. Interpretation of the data is the crucial issue of discussion.

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IV. “Giving Up” in “Ignorance”

Behe: Some scientific reviewers have dismissed the conclusion of design as an “argument from ignorance,” or a “God of the gaps” argument. This can take several forms. One form of the objection is presented by University of London evolutionary biologist Andrew Pomiankowski, who writes:

Most biochemists have only a meagre understanding of, or interest in, evolution. As Behe points out, for the thousand-plus scholarly articles on the biochemistry of cilia, he could find only a handful that seriously addressed evolution. This indifference is universal. (Pomiankowski 1996)

Behe: So, Pomiankowski argues, we do not have answers because nobody has looked, and biochemists haven’t looked because they have little interest in the subject.

Although initially plausible, this interpretation suffers from the fact that there is demonstrable interest in evolution among molecular bioscientists. (One doesn’t have to officially call oneself a “biochemist” to address such problems. Molecular biologists, geneticists, immunologists, embryologists-- investigators in all of these disciplines are in a position to work on them.) The authors of the large number of books and papers listed on John Catalano’s and David Ussery’s web sites are clearly interested in evolution (see my discussion of the evolutionary literature on this web site), as are the authors of numerous other studies that involve sequence comparisons. Since many papers are published in the general area of molecular evolution, we have to ask why there are so few in the particular area of the Darwinian evolution of irreducibly complex systems. Pomiankowski proposes it is because the problem is so difficult (Pomiankowski 1996); I suggest it is difficult because irreducibly complex systems fit poorly within a gradualistic theory such as Darwinism.

A less reasonable form, I think, of the “ignorance” accusation is presented by Neil Blackstone. An evolutionary biologist at Northern Illinois University, Blackstone levels a formal charge at me of an error in logic--the “argumentum ad ignorantium,” as his review is titled (Blackstone 1997). He even cites a philosophy textbook by Irving Copi to give the charge authority. Those who chop logic to rule out a hypothesis, however, should make sure they are on very firm logical ground. Blackstone is not.

Copi defines the fallacy as follows: “The argumentum ad ignorantium is committed whenever it is argued that a proposition is true simply on the basis that it has not been proved false, or that it is false because it has not been proved true.” (Copi 1953) But I certainly did not argue that the Darwinian evolution of biochemical complexity is false “simply on the basis” that it has not been proved true. Nor did I say that intelligent design is true “simply on the basis” that it has not been proved false. To lay the groundwork for a proposal of intelligent design I did argue extensively that the blood clotting cascade and other systems have not been explained by Darwinism. That, of course, was necessary because many people have the impression that Darwinian theory has already given a satisfactory account for virtually all aspects of life. My first task was to show the readership that that impression is not correct.

But my argument did not stop there. I spent many pages throughout the book showing that there is a structural reason--irreducible complexity--for thinking that Darwinian explanations are unlikely to succeed. Furthermore, I argued that irreducible complexity is a hallmark of intelligent design, took several chapters to explicate how we apprehend design, showed why some biochemical systems meet the criteria, and addressed objections to the design argument.

Truncating my case for intelligent design and then saying I commit the fallacy of argumentum ad ignorantium is not, in my opinion, fair play.
Let’s explore the intricacies of formal logic a little further. Although Blackstone didn’t mention it, Copi has more to say on the argument from ignorance.

A qualification should be made at this point. In some circumstances it can be safely assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of proof of its occurrence as positive proof of its non-occurrence. (Copi 1953)

Although I did not limit my argument to the lack of evidence for the Darwinian evolution of irreducibly complex biochemical systems, when qualified investigators (such as, say, those investigating blood clotting) come up empty, it is “perfectly reasonable” to weigh that against Darwinism. (By itself, of course, it is not positive evidence for design.) Although lack of progress is not “proof” of the failure of Darwinism, it certainly is a significant factor to consider.
Rw: Unfortunately Mr. Behe has given us no discernable explanation about his hypothesis that would allow us to decide if this designer is, or could factually exist or have designed specific aspects of biological organisms. He has failed to reason why specific aspects of these irreducibly complex mechanisms demonstrate this feature and others do not and, or if, they are crucial to the whole of our ecology or the most crucial to it. There are enough questions remaining to justify an inverse of argumentum ad ignorantium from his own postulates.

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Behe: In a milder variation of the “argument from ignorance” complaint, other scientific reviewers have objected that an appeal to intelligent design is tantamount to “giving up.” For example, in the Forward Emory University evolutionary biologist Marc Lipsitch remarks:
(Behe) correctly suggests that a complete theory of evolution would include an account of how the intricate chemical systems inside our bodies arose (or might have arisen) from inanimate molecules, one step at a time. Mr. Behe’s question is a fair one, but instead of suggesting a series of experiments that could address the question, he throws up his hands. (Lipsitch 1996)

Behe: Unfortunately, the point is made with circular logic: it depends on the presupposition that life is not designed, which is the point at issue. If life is not designed then, yes, a theory of intelligent design is ultimately a blind alley (if not quite “giving up”). However, if aspects of life are indeed designed, then the search for the putative unintelligent mechanisms that built them is the blind alley. But how do we decide ahead of time which is correct?

We can’t decide the correct answer ahead of time. Science can only follow the data where they lead, as they become available.
Rw: All of which begs the question of why some aspects of life appear designed and not all aspects. We can, however, decide the correct questions. Mr.Behe is certainly free to pursue the data whereever it leads and the rest of us await the outcome eagerly. It is my hope that in his pursuit, when interpreting the data he refrain from leaning too heavily on theology as this, in my opinion, does not constitute allowing science to follow the data.

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Re falsifiability of ID:

We should be aware that Mr. Behe is confusing to things (whether purposely or not, I cannot tell): falsification of ID per se and invalidation of his arguments for ID. They are definitely not the same.

A detailed, step-by-step Darwinian explanation of all his IC examples would invalidate his particular arguments, but not the ID hypothesis. The unspecified and unlimited designer could have made a flagellum in a way that it looks exactly like the result of "Darwin's Algorithm" (Dennett), for some unspecified reason.

"Mere design" - i.e. without some additional statement about identity, methods, limitations and/or motives - is unfalsifiable. But that's exactly the hypothesis that Behe proposes as an alternative to Darwinian evolution.

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<strong>Re falsifiability of ID:

We should be aware that Mr. Behe is confusing to things (whether purposely or not, I cannot tell): falsification of ID per se and invalidation of his arguments for ID. They are definitely not the same.

A detailed, step-by-step Darwinian explanation of all his IC examples would invalidate his particular arguments, but not the ID hypothesis. The unspecified and unlimited designer could have made a flagellum in a way that it looks exactly like the result of "Darwin's Algorithm" (Dennett), for some unspecified reason.

"Mere design" - i.e. without some additional statement about identity, methods, limitations and/or motives - is unfalsifiable. But that's exactly the hypothesis that Behe proposes as an alternative to Darwinian evolution.

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I agree HRG and I wonder if Behe realizes the difference. I think he's invested too heavily in the irreducible complexity factor and based his hypothesis on the specific function of the mechanisms as having been the original function selected for.

I would postulate these bacterium began life without a flagellum, drifting aimlessly in whatever medium they were in until some chance encounter with a solid structure that they somehow adhered to briefly perhaps caused a tear in a protein chain as the current ripped them away with the resultant chain being repaired and further resulting in the beginnings of an appendage as this repaired chain found its way into the replication process. Following this reasoning I can postulate this altered chain becoming a snag, further tearing, further selection until it reached the proportions of an appendage that became useful as an anchor. Then I postulate that shifting currents, (like a back and forth motion in ocean currents) caused this anchor to be torn, repaired, torn, repaired until it began to be selected as a more mobile tool.

At any rate I would test this hypothesis in the lab using currents in the medium to see if a flagellumless organism could begin to select for an appendage. If so, this would demonstrate that Behe's function compared to a mousetrap was not the original function selected for and only became functional over a process of evolutionary time which would, of course, be consistent with Darwinian methodology.

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<strong>I would postulate these bacterium began life without a flagellum, ... Then I postulate that shifting currents this anchor to be torn, repaired, torn, repaired until it began to be selected as a more mobile tool.</strong>
This is too convoluted to be likely. I postulate that the flagellum came first, and this subsequently became infected by a bacteria.

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This is too convoluted to be likely.


rw: In what way?

BN: I postulate that the flagellum came first, and this subsequently became infected by a bacteria.

rw: Then you haven't explained away irreducible complexity.
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