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MrDarwin · 04-23-2003, 08:05 AM

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The Mormon Church said Wednesday it has temporarily stopped sending missionaries to Hong Kong as a precaution against SARS, and those already on the streets here are wearing masks and avoiding contact such as handshakes. None of Hong Kong's 30,000 Mormons are known to have caught SARS.

Just found this a bit ironic. Apparently the Mormons don't have any faith that God will protect their tender young missionaries from this disease while they're doing his/her/its work.

Godot · 04-23-2003, 08:10 AM

*sigh* I guess the days when people mindlessly had faith in the power of god are gone. *sigh*

keyser_soze · 04-23-2003, 08:11 AM

They must have not been wearing their blessed T-shirts...

Ojuice5001 · 04-23-2003, 08:39 AM

Well, of course not. Hong Kong is in Asia, a realm that is outside Yahweh's area of greatest influence.

Similarly, it's all right for Christians to pray for themselves instead of the people starving in Africa. Yahweh is only a Western god, people, not a god of the whole world.

Magus55 · 04-23-2003, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by MrDarwin
From this Washington Post article:

Just found this a bit ironic. Apparently the Mormons don't have any faith that God will protect their tender young missionaries from this disease while they're doing his/her/its work.

Actually, God doesn't say He will protect us from all the plagues of the world. We are sinners, in a fallen corrupted world, and we have to deal with the consequences. He never said it would be easy. And Mormonism is a cult, not Christian.

Amaranth · 04-23-2003, 12:27 PM

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Actually, God doesn't say He will protect us from all the plagues of the world. We are sinners, in a fallen corrupted world, and we have to deal with the consequences. He never said it would be easy.

Don't let the fact that he would watch you die horribly of ebola detract from the truth that he loves you, right?

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And Mormonism is a cult, not Christian.

All right, I've had enough of this - Time to pony up, Magus. Define a "true Christian", since you are so fond of this redundant, annoying "no true Scotsman" variation.

Slavik91 · 04-23-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Amaranth
All right, I've had enough of this - Time to pony up, Magus. Define a "true Christian", since you are so fond of this redundant, annoying "no true Scotsman" variation.

I have started a thread here to address that.

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Autonemesis · 04-23-2003, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
And Mormonism is a cult, not Christian.

By what measure? There are many more Mormons than there are Eastern Orthodox Church members. But Eastern Orthodox are considered to be Christians and not a cult. Yet their doctrines are farther from Protestants' and Roman Catholics' than Mormon doctrines (i.e. no doctrine of Trinity in EO Church, but Mormons share this doctrine with Protestants and the RC), and the EO membership is far smaller than that of the LDS church, and many other groups called cults by US Christians.

So what gives?

lpetrich · 04-23-2003, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Actually, God doesn't say He will protect us from all the plagues of the world. We are sinners, in a fallen corrupted world, and we have to deal with the consequences. He never said it would be easy. ...

Seems like an extremely incompetent being -- or a very punitive one.

Miss Piggy · 04-24-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Autonemesis
By what measure? There are many more Mormons than there are Eastern Orthodox Church members.

Ummph. From http://www.adherents.com/adh_branches.html I got the following numbers of adherents:

Orthodox/Eastern Christian 240,000,000
Latter Day Saints 11,500,000

These are from 1990's, I think.

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Godot Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,335	sigh I guess the days when people mindlessly had faith in the power of god are gone. sigh

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Ojuice5001 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A city in Florida that I love Posts: 3,416	Well, of course not. Hong Kong is in Asia, a realm that is outside Yahweh's area of greatest influence. Similarly, it's all right for Christians to pray for themselves instead of the people starving in Africa. Yahweh is only a Western god, people, not a god of the whole world.

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